Dolby 712 Posted July 3, 2021 #171 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, intoronto said: Having 36 shooting medals is ridiculous, when the Olympics have 15. In any case the original statement was not "India has underperformed at the CWG. "history of Commonwealth sports." does not equal "CWG". Commonwealth sports = countries who compete at the CWG. Yes, it is better to have more medals in the great Olympic sport of Lawn bowls Gianlu33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 932 Posted July 3, 2021 #172 Share Posted July 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, Nickyc707 said: ask you again how would India have responded if one of the other Commonwealth countries had tried to dictate what sports to include in the programme for Delhi? Name 1 commonwealth games sport that has consistently taken place from the last 3 decades of cwg which Delhi couldn't have hosted. Then we'll answer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted July 3, 2021 #173 Share Posted July 3, 2021 I don’t care that Shooting competition is not being held. We already showed that we are capable of arm twisting CGF. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,477 Posted July 3, 2021 #174 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Nickyc707 said: Shooting is not a core sport of the CWG and never has been. It's an optional sport and therefore was not removed from the programme. Nor is it a "major" Olympic sport. It doesn't attract large numbers of spectators and it is difficult to follow either on television or in person. The thing is, shooting has been on the Commonwealth Games program longer than a quite a few of the core sports. It’s omission as core sport raises some questions, especially since the core sports program was recently reworked. It might not be the most well known Olympic sport, but shooting enjoys a high participation rate at both the Commonwealth Games and Olympic Games. For instance, all had entries in shooting, when they didn’t even have entries in many of the core sports. Also, with electronic scoring, compelling finals format, and good graphics, it’s not too hard to follow in-person or on television. dcro and nitinsanker 2 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinsanker 179 Posted July 3, 2021 #175 Share Posted July 3, 2021 in my opinion...... The excuse given by the CWG is ridiculous ....... They could not hold a shooting championship in South England as they did not have facilities ....Sounds ridculous ... while they could do it manchester , glasgow , edinborough , london, bisley etc etc ....... the biusley venue is just an hour and a half away ..... ( closer than the cycling venue ) This is clearly aimed at an unsportsmanlike thwarting of sports they do badly at ( and India does wellat ) ......... Personally I think that the Birmingham team are a pack of cheaters ....... and should be called out for what they are ....... I am glad Indians called them out for this ....... intoronto 1 strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted July 4, 2021 #176 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said: Name 1 commonwealth games sport that has consistently taken place from the last 3 decades of cwg which Delhi couldn't have hosted. Then we'll answer . So basically you can't answer. India behaves in a way that it wouldn't accept from any other country. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted July 4, 2021 #177 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: The thing is, shooting has been on the Commonwealth Games program longer than a quite a few of the core sports. It’s omission as core sport raises some questions, especially since the core sports program was recently reworked. It might not be the most well known Olympic sport, but shooting enjoys a high participation rate at both the Commonwealth Games and Olympic Games. For instance, all had entries in shooting, when they didn’t even have entries in many of the core sports. Also, with electronic scoring, compelling finals format, and good graphics, it’s not too hard to follow in-person or on television. Then I suggest that those countries that want it to be a core sport work to achieve that. There's nothing to stop them from doing that. The point is that the decision was solely the organisers as agreed by the CWG federations. India has engaged in bully boy tactics which it would never gave accepted had the boot been on the other foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted July 4, 2021 #178 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Dolby said: Yes, it is better to have more medals in the great Olympic sport of Lawn bowls Except of course there aren't more medals for lawn bowls than shooting and the CWG isn't intended to be a replica of the OG which is why it includes non-Olympic sports just as the Asian Games does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted July 4, 2021 #179 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 hours ago, nitinsanker said: in my opinion...... The excuse given by the CWG is ridiculous ....... They could not hold a shooting championship in South England as they did not have facilities ....Sounds ridculous ... while they could do it manchester , glasgow , edinborough , london, bisley etc etc ....... the biusley venue is just an hour and a half away ..... ( closer than the cycling venue ) This is clearly aimed at an unsportsmanlike thwarting of sports they do badly at ( and India does wellat ) ......... Personally I think that the Birmingham team are a pack of cheaters ....... and should be called out for what they are ....... I am glad Indians called them out for this ....... Is there a single lie that you will not tell? "This is clearly aimed at an unsportsmanlike thwarting of sports they do badly at ( and India does wellat ) ........." 2002 British shooters won 24 medals Indian shooters won 24 medals 2006 British 26 Indian 27 2010 British 30 Indian 30 2014 British 20 Indian 17 2018 British 22 Indian 16 Total British 122 Indian 114 The numbers demonstrate categorically that the absence of shooting does not benefit the British teams at the expense of India. If anything it is the other way around as India's performance has declined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdr4332 149 Posted July 4, 2021 #180 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: The thing is, shooting has been on the Commonwealth Games program longer than a quite a few of the core sports. It’s omission as core sport raises some questions, especially since the core sports program was recently reworked. It might not be the most well known Olympic sport, but shooting enjoys a high participation rate at both the Commonwealth Games and Olympic Games. For instance, all had entries in shooting, when they didn’t even have entries in many of the core sports. Also, with electronic scoring, compelling finals format, and good graphics, it’s not too hard to follow in-person or on television. I agree with Olympian 1010 here, shooting is now watchable on television, unlike my old hobby-horse, modern pentathlon... :D :D A question for those involved with CWG issues: is the removal of shooting and archery only for this edition or is it permanent? As I am not familiar with the venues I don't know how credible is the explanation that there are no suitable venues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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