George_D 862 Posted March 9, 2020 #1 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Boxing IOC European Olympic Games Qualifier 2020 Paris/London (FRA/GBR) - 14 March 2020 - 8 June 2021 Official Website Programme Results System Results Database Facebook Page Discussion Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,113 Posted March 9, 2020 #2 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Entry lists or is it too early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted March 9, 2020 #3 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I just don't get how Euope is given most quota places of all continents for lower weights. It's not just that lower weight tend to be very non-European, but also a question - How many adult Europeans weigh under 52/57/63 kg? #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted March 9, 2020 #4 Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, dcro said: I just don't get how Euope is given most quota places of all continents for lower weights. It's not just that lower weight tend to be very non-European, but also a question - How many adult Europeans weigh under 52/57/63 kg? Women? Plenty. Men? Yeah...not so much If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,113 Posted March 9, 2020 #5 Share Posted March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, dcro said: I just don't get how Euope is given most quota places of all continents for lower weights. It's not just that lower weight tend to be very non-European, but also a question - How many adult Europeans weigh under 52/57/63 kg? I think the quotas are placed proportionally, which hasn't happened in a long time. And there a few left for the World qualifier and not the usual 1-3 quotas. We know boxing and it's limitless problems, but the quotas are not one of them this time. As a matter of fact, Europe is slightly screwed in the heavier categories, because there are lesser athletes and Europe has the same number as Asia and one more than Americas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted March 9, 2020 #6 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Federer91 said: I think the quotas are placed proportionally, which hasn't happened in a long time. And there a few left for the World qualifier and not the usual 1-3 quotas. We know boxing and it's limitless problems, but the quotas are not one of them this time. As a matter of fact, Europe is slightly screwed in the heavier categories, because there are lesser athletes and Europe has the same number as Asia and one more than Americas. Yeah, that's all fine in theory. But nevertheless, Europeans are quite tall on average, so it is counterintuitive that the lowest weights get most places. Random example: Average male height in Denmark - 180 cm Average male height in Malaysia - 163 cm Edited March 9, 2020 by dcro #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,130 Posted March 9, 2020 #7 Share Posted March 9, 2020 I think it's fine. There are enough "World Quotas" to offset any minor favouritism. Asia may win more World quotas than Europe in the lighter categories, but I doubt we'd have a scenario where the 12th ranked Asian nation is a lot better than the eighth rank European nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickyc707 305 Posted March 9, 2020 #8 Share Posted March 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Federer91 said: Entry lists or is it too early? Haven't seen them yet but for what it's worth the GB squad is Men 52kg - Galal Yafai 56kg - Peter McGrail 64kg - Luke McCormack 69kg - Pat McCormack 75kg - Sammy Lee 81kg - Ben Whittaker 91kg - Cheavon Clarke 91kg+ - Frazer Clarke Women 51kg - Charley Davison 57kg - Karris Artingstall 60kg - Caroline Dubois 69kg - Rosie Eccles 75kg - Lauren Price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodge 681 Posted March 9, 2020 #9 Share Posted March 9, 2020 FWIW have won 15 Olympic medals in men's boxing and all but 4 of them have been 60kg and lower! 48kg - 2 51kg - 2 52kg - 1 54kg - 3 56kg - 1 60kg - 2 67kg - 1 67kg - 1 75kg - 1 81kg - 1 And here's our team for the European qualifiers Men 52kg – Flyweight – Brendan Irvine 57kg – Featherweight – Kurt Walker 63kg – Light-welterweight – George Bates 69kg – Welterweight – Aidan Walsh 75kg – Middleweight – Michael Nevin 81kg – Light-heavyweight – Emmett Brennan 91kg – Heavyweight – Kiril Afanasev 91+kg – Super-heavyweight – Dean Gardiner Women 51kg – Flyweight- Ceire Smith 57kg – Featherweight – Michaela Walsh 60kg – Lightweight – Kellie Harrington 69kg – Welterweight – Christina Desmond 75kg – Middleweight – Aoife O’Rourke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,113 Posted March 9, 2020 #10 Share Posted March 9, 2020 It's not important the population characteristics, but the sporting depth. Asia could have a bigger pool to choose lightweight boxers, but is their 5th nation better than the 5th one from Europe, or the 8th, or the 10th, or the 12th. Indonesia can have 10 million boxers and they still can be worse than Hungary's 10 000 (figuratively speaking), because the don't have the same preparation, training etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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