Olympian1010 7,470 Posted July 17, 2020 #351 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Preach. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,593 Posted July 17, 2020 #352 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Excuse me but who said IOC is a democratic organization to begin with? mrv86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted July 18, 2020 #353 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Monzanator said: Excuse me but who said IOC is a democratic organization to begin with? Pierre De Coubertin and the Olympic Charter. Of course the IOC hasn’t really lived by the values of either, but it’s not wrong for us to wish they would. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 18, 2020 #354 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Pierre De Coubertin Right, so it's not something we should take serious. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted July 18, 2020 #355 Share Posted July 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Right, so it's not something we should take serious. What do you mean? “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted July 18, 2020 #356 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said: What do you mean? He might not be as bad as Brundage, but it's not like De Coubertin was a person very...open to certain things. I believe for example he was a rather big fan of colonization and it being 'good' for the 'savages' in the colonies. Can't find it at the moment in a quick search, maybe @Dragon knows more about it. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted July 18, 2020 #357 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Nothing more noble than sitting around, judging people who lived 100 years ago via internet. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted July 18, 2020 #358 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, heywoodu said: He might not be as bad as Brundage, but it's not like De Coubertin was a person very...open to certain things. I believe for example he was a rather big fan of colonization and it being 'good' for the 'savages' in the colonies. Can't find it at the moment in a quick search, maybe @Dragon knows more about it. I haven’t heard anything about that (probably because the IOC and other Olympic scholars love covering stuff like that up to save face), but would also be interested to know if that’s true. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,593 Posted July 18, 2020 #359 Share Posted July 18, 2020 9 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: Pierre De Coubertin and the Olympic Charter. Of course the IOC hasn’t really lived by the values of either, but it’s not wrong for us to wish they would. IOC has evolved since de Coubertin... a lot! Just 36 years ago Ingemar Stenmark and Hanni Wenztel were banned from taking part in Sarajevo WOG, can you imagine IOC banning Mikaela Shiffrin and Henrik Kristoffersen from taking part in 2022 WOG? Pro sports is all about money these days. Even IAAF changed their name since one of the As standing for 'amateur' has been a lie for 30+ years Everyone simply stopped with the hypocrisy and I'm better off with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,690 Posted July 19, 2020 #360 Share Posted July 19, 2020 On 18/07/2020 at 08:39, Olympian1010 said: I haven’t heard anything about that (probably because the IOC and other Olympic scholars love covering stuff like that up to save face), but would also be interested to know if that’s true. Well, De Coubertain is quoted as saying sport would "calm the uncivilized races of Africa" and he didn't like women competing in most Olympic sports. The big difference between him and Brundage is the change of general attitude between 1900 and 1972 (when Brundage retired). DC's views were just those of an average French/European in those days - Brundage's views were already discredited when he was still president, heywoodu and Olympian1010 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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