Monzanator 3,593 Posted June 25, 2021 #2091 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Yeah, I wonder if pro-political members here would support Russians going with "Crimea is Russian" message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,134 Posted June 25, 2021 #2092 Share Posted June 25, 2021 So the IOC is just covering their asses as usual. They know athletes will undoubtedly do the BLM and if they fine, strip, DQ them, they will get a tornado from the twitter klan, so let's just say we are "letting" them do it. Monzanator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnl 658 Posted June 25, 2021 #2093 Share Posted June 25, 2021 And what if Laurel Habbard will win gold and the other competitors will decide to protest it, then is it legit? What subjects consider ok to protest? Is one agenda is ok and another is not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 243 Posted June 25, 2021 #2094 Share Posted June 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dnl said: Sorry , but when you leave a room for protest and politics(the kind of which is not supposed to be related to the sports world) you give the option to abuse this situation, if some athletes care about a problem then act , donate the prize money to an organisation or something, raising a hand will not solve the problem That's where the slippery slope comes in and why I'm largely on the IOC's side on this one. I don't know what the happy medium is and where you draw the line, let alone where the IOC is supposed to be in charge of that. 4 minutes ago, Federer91 said: So the IOC is just covering their asses as usual. They know athletes will undoubtedly do the BLM and if they fine, strip, DQ them, they will get a tornado from the twitter klan, so let's just say we are "letting" them do it. "do the BLM" The idea that the IOC has these rules and doesn't really specify punishment for breaking them is just to try and strike the fear of G-d in them. Particularly for athletes who are unlikely to make it to the next Olympics (and/or if they even care) Paris 2024 competition schedule by Day Paris 2024 competition schedule by Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted June 25, 2021 #2095 Share Posted June 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Monzanator said: Yeah, I wonder if pro-political members here would support Russians going with "Crimea is Russian" message? We already have something very similar with the existence of a team called "chinese taipei", so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,588 Posted June 25, 2021 #2096 Share Posted June 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dnl said: And what if Laurel Habbard will win gold and the other competitors will decide to protest it, then is it legit? What subjects consider ok to protest? Is one agenda is ok and another is not? Pro liberalism is allowed. Pro conservatism is forbidden. How dare you go against universal values! Dnl and Monzanator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted June 25, 2021 #2097 Share Posted June 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dnl said: And what if Laurel Habbard will win gold and the other competitors will decide to protest it, then is it legit? What subjects consider ok to protest? Is one agenda is ok and another is not? IMO you can protest anything you want, but whether something will come from it is a different issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted June 25, 2021 #2098 Share Posted June 25, 2021 If the Olympic Games were apolitical athletes wouldn’t not represent political entities, hear the song of a political entity upon winning an event, or parade under the flag of a political entity. Athletes would not be allowed to trade pins representing political entities, wear a uniform that displays the colors/flag/symbols of a political entity, or speak in any manner about a political entity. The International Olympic Committee would not hold elections for positions, and would instead run like a private business. Governing bodies representing political entities would no longer be allowed to be member federations of international federations. The International Olympic Committee wouldn’t sing a host agreement with a local, regional, or national political body, and would instead sign agreements with private companies, individual venues, and individual vendors. The Olympic Games would not be opened by the head of a political entity, but rather by the head of the IOC or LOC. Jur and szy123 1 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted June 25, 2021 #2099 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dnl said: And what if Laurel Habbard will win gold and the other competitors will decide to protest it, then is it legit? What subjects consider ok to protest? Is one agenda is ok and another is not? The precedent for protesting the results of an event on the podium is quite well established. That being said the IOC should obviously not punish athletes who question the fairness of the IOC's policy on transgendered athletes, even if they do so at the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,134 Posted June 25, 2021 #2100 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Vic Liu said: Pro liberalism is allowed. Pro conservatism is forbidden. How dare you go against universal values! Hmm, universal values for 30 countries out of 200, very universal indeed. Monzanator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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