[OFF TOPIC] Movies & TV Series Thread

[Federer91 2,134]

Finally this dragged out season is coming to an end.. The only things worth mentioning are Sir Anthony Hopkins and Sound of Metal and neither of them will win, because you know...

[dcro 10,179]

Well, I liked Nomadland best. Sound of Metal is good, as is Minari (but with obvious faults). Promising Young Woman is decent. This leaves Judas and the Black Messiah, Mank and The Trial of the Chicago 7 as the obligatory propaganda pieces.

 

Will watch The Father tonight.

[dcro 10,179]

Also, I focused quite a bit on the nominated documentaries this year... And they are good! The overall quality is much better than usual. I can recommend them all.

[dcro 10,179]

My final rankings...

 

Nomadland

Sound of Metal

The Father

Minari

Promising Young Woman

Judas and the Black Messiah

Mank

The Trial of the Chicago 7

 

Glad Nomadland and Hopkins won, don't care for the rest. McDormand having three Oscars is bizarre. Don't tell me she will tie (or even surpass) Katharine Hepburn.

[vinipereira 3,047]

On 25/04/2021 at 12:42, vinipereira said:

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Best Picture

WILL WIN: Nomadland

COULD WIN: The Trial of the Chicago 7

SHOULD WIN: 1. The Father; 2. Nomadland; 3. Sound of Metal; 4. Minari; 5. Judas and the Black Messiah; 6. Promising Young Woman; 7. Mank; 8. The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: First Cow

 

 

Directing

WILL WIN: Nomadland, Chloé Zhao

COULD WIN: Promising Young Woman, Emerald Fennell

SHOULD WIN: 1. Nomadland, Chloé Zhao; 2. Another Round, Thomas Vinterberg; 3. Minari, Lee Isaac Chung; 4. Promising Young Woman, Emerald Fennell; 5. Mank, David Fincher.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Kelly Reichardt, First Cow

 

 

Actor in a Leading Role

WILL WIN: Chadwick Boseman, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

COULD WIN: Anthony Hopkins, The Father

SHOULD WIN: 1. Anthony Hopkins, The Father; 2. Riz Ahmed, Sound of Metal; 3. Chadwick Boseman, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom; 4. Steven Yeun, Minari; 5. Gary Oldman, Mank.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Mads Mikkelsen, Another Round

 

 

Actress in a Leading Role

WILL WIN: Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman

COULD WIN: Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom / Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holiday (I couldn't decide, only Kirby would surprise me at this point)

SHOULD WIN: 1. Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman; 2. Frances McDormand, Nomadland; 3. Andra Day, The United States vs. Billie Holiday; 4. Vanesa Kirby, Pieces of a Woman; 5. Viola Davis, Ma Rainey's Black Bottom.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Jasna Đuričić, Quo Vadis, Aida?

 

 

Actor in a Supporting Role

WILL WIN: Daniel Kaluuya, Judas and the Black Messiah

COULD WIN: Paul Raci, Sound of Metal

SHOULD WIN: 1. Paul Raci, Sound of Metal; 2. Daniel Kaluuya, Judas and the Black Messiah; 3. Lakeith Stanfield, Judas and the Black Messiah; 4. Leslie Odom Jr., One Night in Miami; 5. Sacha Baron Cohen, The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Bill Murray, On the Rocks

 

 

Actress in a Supporting Role

WILL WIN: Yuh-Jung Youn, Minari

COULD WIN: Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm

SHOULD WIN: 1. Yuh-Jung Youn, Minari; 2. Olivia Colman, The Father; 3. Amanda Seyfried, Mank; 4. Maria Bakalova, Borat Subsequent Moviefilm; 5. Glenn Close, Hillbilly Elegy.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Olivia Williams, The Father

 

 

Writing (Adapted Screenplay)

WILL WIN: The Father

COULD WIN: Nomadland

SHOULD WIN: 1. The Father; 2. Nomadland; 3. The White Tiger; 4. One Night in Miami; 5. Borat Subsequent Moviefilm.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: I'm Thinking of Ending Things

 

 

Writing (Original Screenplay)

WILL WIN: Promising Young Woman

COULD WIN: The Trial of the Chicago 7

SHOULD WIN: 1. Minari; 2. Sound of Metal; 3. Promising Young Woman; 4. Judas and the Black Messiah; 5. The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Bacurau

 

 

Animated Feature Film

WILL WIN: Soul

COULD WIN: Wolfwalkers

SHOULD WIN: 1. Soul; 2. Wolfwalkers; 3. Over the Moon; 4. Onward; 5. A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Didn't watch any other good animation films this year.

 

 

Documentary Feature

WILL WIN: My Octopus Teacher

COULD WIN: Crip Camp

SHOULD WIN: 1. Collective; 2. The Mole Agent; 3. Time; 4. Crip Camp; 5. My Octopus Teacher.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Welcome to Chechnya

 

 

International Feature Film

WILL WIN: Another Round (Denmark)

COULD WIN: Quo Vadis, Aida? (Bosnia and Herzegovina)

SHOULD WIN: 1. Another Round (Denmark); 2. Quo Vadis, Aida? (Bosnia and Herzegovina); 3. Collective (Romania); 4. The Man Who Sold His Skin (Tunisia). Not watched: Better Days (Hong Kong).

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: The Mole Agent (Chile), but from the shortlist I'm still gonna watch Guatemala's and Mexico's entries.

 

 

Cinematography

WILL WIN: Nomadland

COULD WIN: Mank

SHOULD WIN: 1. Nomadland; 2. Mank; 3. Judas and the Black Messiah; 4. News of the World; 5. The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: First Cow

 

 

Film Editing

WILL WIN: Sound of Metal

COULD WIN: The Trial of the Chicago 7

SHOULD WIN: 1. The Father; 2. Sound of Metal; 3. Nomadland; 4. Promising Young Woman; 5. The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Palm Springs

 

 

Costume Design

WILL WIN: Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

COULD WIN: Emma.

SHOULD WIN: 1. Emma.; 2. Pinocchio; 3. Mank; 4. Ma Rainey's Black Bottom; 5. Mulan.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: First Cow

 

 

Production Design

WILL WIN: Mank

COULD WIN: Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

SHOULD WIN: 1. Mank; 2. The Father; 3. News of the World; 4. Tenet; 5. Ma Rainey's Black Bottom.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Soul

 

 

Makeup and Hairstyling

WILL WIN: Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

COULD WIN: Pinocchio

SHOULD WIN: 1. Pinocchio; 2. Ma Rainey's Black Bottom; 3. Emma.; 4. Mank; 5. Hillbilly Elegy.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Promising Young Woman

 

 

Music (Original Score)

WILL WIN: Soul

COULD WIN: Mank

SHOULD WIN: 1. Soul; 2. Minari; 3. Mank; 4. News of the World; 5. Da 5 Bloods.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Wolfwalkers

 

 

Music (Original Song)

WILL WIN: "Speak Now", One Night in Miami

COULD WIN: "Husavik", Eurovision Song Contest

SHOULD WIN: 1. "Husavik", Eurovision Song Contest; 2. "Io sì (Seen)", The Life Ahead; 3. "Speak Now", One Night in Miami; 4. "Fight for You", Judas and the Black Messiah; 5. "Hear My Voice", The Trial of the Chicago 7.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: "Rocket to the Moon", Over the Moon

 

 

Sound

WILL WIN: Sound of Metal

COULD WIN: Soul

SHOULD WIN: 1. Sound of Metal; 2. Soul; 3. Mank; 4. News of the World; 5. Greyhound.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Nomadland

 

 

Visual Effects

WILL WIN: Tenet

COULD WIN: The Midnight Sky

SHOULD WIN: 1. Tenet; 2. Love and Monsters; 3. The Midnight Sky; 4. Mulan; 5. The One and Only Ivan.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Welcome to Chechnya

 

 

Short Film (Animated)

WILL WIN: If Anything Happens I Love You

COULD WIN: Burrow

SHOULD WIN: 1. Opera; 2. Genius Loci; 3. Burrow; 4. If Anything Happens I Love You; 5. Yes-People.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: Out

 

 

Short Film (Documentary)

WILL WIN: A Love Song for Latasha

COULD WIN: Colette

SHOULD WIN: 1. A Concerto is a Conversation; 2. A Love Song for Latasha; 3. Do Not Split; 4. Colette; 5. Hunger Ward.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: The Speed Cubers

 

 

Short Film (Live Action)

WILL WIN: Two Distant Strangers

COULD WIN: The Letter Room

SHOULD WIN: 1. White Eye; 2. The Present; 3. Feeling Through; 4. The Letter Room; 5. Two Distant Strangers.

SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOMINATED: The Human Voice

 

Updating with the results: 18/23 correct picks. Happy with my predictions and overall list of winners. Only shock for me was that nothing of a song winning, and I was a little bit surprised with McDormand in Best Actress - she's great, but didn't even campaign for it. I wish Mulligan can win a Oscar in the near future.

 

[Federer91 2,134]

I'm actually shocked that there are still people who value the actual craft, than the politics. So well deserved and happy for Sir Anthony Hopkins. He was the whole film, in a truly brilliant performance and one of the few brightest spots in the past year!

 

Yeah, Frances winning a 3rd Oscar is a bit excessive.. She is one of the best actresses of the past 30 years, but still... I think this would be it for her in terms of wins, she could get 1-2 more noms. 

 

Sound of Metal winning 2 Oscars is well deserved and for me it was the best film out of all. Guess Nomadland was the next in line and it could pass as a BP winner, though it would be very, very low, if we made a winners ranking. Chloe Zhao also doesn't look like a typical Hollywood nut-job and feels very genuine about her love for movies, so i don't mind her wins.  

[dcro 10,179]

What I loved about Nomadland is that it remains apolitical from start to finish.

 

In the hands of a lesser director (AKA almost any given Hollywood director these days), Nomadland would have been full of heavy handed leftist political agenda.

[Vektor 3,195]

Man, I really hope Eurovision and then EURO2020 will prove that we have finally moved on from depressing events that are completely unable to capture "the magic" of their pre-COVID version, because the Oscars wasn't that. I know the bar isn't high for the Oscars as a variety show, but that was still terrible in every way possible. Not a good sign for the Olympic Opening Ceremony (and maybe even for the Games themselves) if Eurovision will also be similarly depressing. 

[Vektor 3,195]

12 hours ago, Federer91 said:

 

 

Yeah, Frances winning a 3rd Oscar is a bit excessive.. She is one of the best actresses of the past 30 years, but still... I think this would be it for her in terms of wins, she could get 1-2 more noms.  

She just has the best luck of any actor in terms of awards, and she got cast in great movies. I mean, is there any other actress who had lead roles in 3 movies that either won Best Picture or were the runner-up to the Best Picture winner? She might be the first actress who achieved this in the entire history of the Oscars. 

 

Best Picture winners or runner-ups in the last 30 years that had a leading actress nominated:

 

1991 - The Silence of the Lambs - Jodie Foster

1993 - The Piano - Holly Hunter

1996 - The English Patient - Kristin Scott Thomas

1996 - Fargo - Frances McDormand

1997 - Titanic - Kate Winslet

1998 - Shakespeare in Love - Gwyneth Paltrow

1999 - American Beauty - Annette Bening

2002 - Chicago - Renée Zellweger

2004 - Million Dollar Baby - Hillary Swank

2013 - Gravity - Sandra Bullock

2016 - La La Land - Emma Stone

2017 - The Shape of Water - Sally Hawkins

2017 - Three Billboards - Frances McDormand

2018 - Roma - Yalitza Aparicio

2020 - Nomadland - Frances McDormand

 

She was already the only actress who had two movies close to winning Best Picture in the last 30 years, and now she has 3 movies, while the other big names struggle to get cast in one, as the Oscars favors movies with male leads. Actresses like Meryl Streep or Viola Davis would probably have more Oscars if they would pick movies as "efficiently" as McDormand does. 

[Federer91 2,134]

8 hours ago, Vektor said:

Actresses like Meryl Streep or Viola Davis would probably have more Oscars if they would pick movies as "efficiently" as McDormand does. 

 

Would have and should have isn't something that the Academy usually takes into account. Otherwise Al Pacino should be having 3 or 4 Oscars by now. And Streep has been overrated for the past 20 years, heaven forbid, if she chooses "better" movies as well.

 

I agree, that she had big luck for this year in particular. She wasn't even the favourite now, when it was such a weak year. If Nomadland came out last season no way it wins. There are like 6-7 better films from last years nominees. Three Billboards was a great movie though and deserved every award it got. It should have been Best Picture as well... There was no luck there.