phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #31 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, heywoodu said: This is getting boring though, you can barely do anything or you're kicked out. What's left of the sport when people are DQ'ed who are hit by others? (like yesterday, a Chinese girl I believe was penalized after someone hit her hard, who was in turn advanced ) I agree...it's a lot like modern keirin in track cycling...it's no longer the exciting sport it used to be... but still, if those rules are in place, you have to play according to them...and someone is not always doing that... p.s. yesterday, it was Seidel who was advanced despite being guilty of that crash... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #32 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I fear De Laat's going home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #33 Share Posted March 9, 2019 and here it comes...De Laat out and the second Korean advanced to the A-Final... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted March 9, 2019 #34 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, phelps said: I agree...it's a lot like modern keirin in track cycling...it's no longer the exciting sport it used to be... but still, if those rules are in place, you have to play according to them...and someone is not always doing that... p.s. yesterday, it was Seidel who was advanced despite being guilty of that crash... Yeah, I meant Seidel. That was just outright stupid: crashing out someone else, falling together with that person and you get advanced while your victim gets penalized It's like you shoot someone in the legs and while doing so, the backfire hurts your hand, after which the judge sends your victim to jail and you get money for the damage to your hand If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,593 Posted March 9, 2019 #35 Share Posted March 9, 2019 There are way too many DQs in short track compared to like 5-6 years ago. And it's hard to watch when the video review lasts longer than the race itself. That's why I don't follow this event on live TV. I watched two 1500 SFs, saw the Schulting BS and I turned it off. heywoodu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #36 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, heywoodu said: Yeah, I meant Seidel. That was just outright stupid: crashing out someone else, falling together with that person and you get advanced while your victim gets penalized It's like you shoot someone in the legs and while doing so, the backfire hurts your hand, after which the judge sends your victim to jail and you get money for the damage to your hand if the judge is Italian, it's highly likely to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #37 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Just now, Monzanator said: There are way too many DQs in short track compared to like 5-6 years ago. And it's hard to watch when the video review lasts longer than the race itself. That's why I don't follow this event on live TV. I watched two 1500 SFs, saw the Schulting BS and I turned it off. in the last few years, they repeatedly changed the rules for safety reasons... that's why nowadays almost nothing is allowed anymore..you just have to keep your line and skate as fast as you can... Edited March 9, 2019 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted March 9, 2019 #38 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, Monzanator said: There are way too many DQs in short track compared to like 5-6 years ago. And it's hard to watch when the video review lasts longer than the race itself. That's why I don't follow this event on live TV. I watched two 1500 SFs, saw the Schulting BS and I turned it off. Interestingly, ex-shorttrack skater Niels Kerstholt (also Dutch, he's in the TV studio) was very much agreeing with the penalty and called Schulting's defending 'incredibly stupid' I don't watch it live a lot anymore though, usually I watch the replays so I can skip through the eternal waits If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #39 Share Posted March 9, 2019 men's 1500m, Skaters qualified to the A-Final Steven Dubois Samuel Girard Xu Hongzhi Hwang Dae Heon Keita Watanabe Lee June Seo Lim Hyo Jun Semen Elistratov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,795 Posted March 9, 2019 #40 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Just now, heywoodu said: Interestingly, ex-shorttrack skater Niels Kerstholt (also Dutch, he's in the TV studio) was very much agreeing with the penalty and called Schulting's defending 'incredibly stupid' I don't watch it live a lot anymore though, usually I watch the replays so I can skip through the eternal waits as I wrote before, Schulting's mistake was actually evident and "stupid" (at least, really unnecessary)... other calls, instead, were at least more questionable... Edited March 9, 2019 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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