Formula E FIA World Championship 2018 - 2019

[Monzanator 3,593]

1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Not entirely true because there is a difference in development between the teams, but overall, yes, it is indeed much closer than F1. Which is what Massa said. 

 

Well, you won't hear Red Bull complain they're down 40 hp on Mercedes. Overall though, FE has been taken over by the big manufacturers like I feared whenever the series gained some momentum. The small teams have been phased out and now it's an economy race just like in F1. So they're going the same path as F1 but with gimmick Mario Kart rules and sprint races (plus F1 drop outs and never-beens as drivers).

[heywoodu 13,540]

F1 is overrated as 'best class' anyway. The cars might be the best, only a handful of drivers is actually among the best.

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24 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

F1 is overrated as 'best class' anyway. The cars might be the best, only a handful of drivers is actually among the best.

 

So which series has the best drivers? All FE champions have been in F1 before anyway

[heywoodu 13,540]

4 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

So which series has the best drivers? All FE champions have been in F1 before anyway

I don't think one series has 'the best' drivers. Some of the world's best are in F1, some are in IndyCar or NASCAR, others are in WEC and so on.

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

I don't think one series has 'the best' drivers. Some of the world's best are in F1, some are in IndyCar or NASCAR, others are in WEC and so on.

 

NASCAR? 3/4 of the drivers there can't turn right to save their lives. WEC is a pensioners' series or the ones who can't buy themselves a F1 seat.

 

F1 spits out the best of talent in ruthless fashion. The last potential top tier talent who didn't go there was probably Tom Kristensen alas he was already 30 yo when he contested F3000. Similar problem befell Kenny Brack.

[heywoodu 13,540]

1 hour ago, Monzanator said:

 

NASCAR? 3/4 of the drivers there can't turn right to save their lives.

That's incorrect, but it is indeed what a lot of people falsely think  

 

And yes, there's quite a lot of people in WEC who can't buy themselves an F1 seat. Not being able to buy yourself an F1 seat doesn't say that much about your actual talent and potential and the whole buying yourself a seat thing is why there are quite some F1 drivers who aren't among the 20 best drivers in the world.

Edited December 15, 2018 by heywoodu

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I've followed NASCAR more or less since 1993 so you won't convince me on that  

 

Bringing up WEC in the era where even Toyota's mechanics could win LeMans as drivers is not the best example.

 

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9 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

I've followed NASCAR more or less since 1993 so you won't convince me on that  

 

Bringing up WEC in the era where even Toyota's mechanics could win LeMans as drivers is not the best example.

 

Personally, I was a huge NASCAR, ALMS, and F1 fan when I was younger. I found all racing to be uncompetitive, and only available to rich. I did think that the most competitive racing series was WEC, especially now. I also thought the original season of Formula E was the best racing series ever (Because It Was Fair!). The WEC and IMSA have has down the majority of the best drivers in the world.

[heywoodu 13,540]

24 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Personally, I was a huge NASCAR, ALMS, and F1 fan when I was younger. I found all racing to be uncompetitive, and only available to rich. I did think that the most competitive racing series was WEC, especially now. I also thought the original season of Formula E was the best racing series ever (Because It Was Fair!). The WEC and IMSA have has down the majority of the best drivers in the world.

A1 Grand Prix  

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3 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Personally, I was a huge NASCAR, ALMS, and F1 fan when I was younger. I found all racing to be uncompetitive, and only available to rich. I did think that the most competitive racing series was WEC, especially now. I also thought the original season of Formula E was the best racing series ever (Because It Was Fair!). The WEC and IMSA have has down the majority of the best drivers in the world.

 

WEC, IMSA and endurance racing in general are gentlemen racing level where going 100% at 100% time is no longer required. Whenever I see Tracy fuckin' Krohn I simpy quit. The Audi dominance has killed my interest in endurance racing, then it was Porsche and now Toyota. Sorry but if you complain about F1 how could you find Audi's walk in the park even remotely exciting. That horse is dead to me.