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I live in Dublin since the beggining of September and I hear a lot of people discussing about the match against Japan. I can tell you that the disppointment is big here...nobody expected this.

@OlympicIRL Safe travels:  

Belgium beat Spain 18-10, which means Romania is going to the World Cup. Very odd and incredible situation: a Belgian win would mean Romania qualified for the World Cup, and what did Rugby Europe do? Appoint a Romanian referee :facepalm:

 

The Romanian referee apparently did pretty much everything he could in the second half to help Belgium come back from behind and help them win in the end. I hope Rugby Europe/the Romanian ref at least took Spain to dinner before they fucked them. 

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Il y a 1 heure , heywoodu a déclaré:

Some analysis of Spain getting royally screwed over by the Romanian ref doing anything he can (with success) to help Romania to the World Cup. 

 

 

 

It was just bad refeering. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like, us, frenchies, we like to believe we're contantly fucked over by referees in european games, because, really, what's the difference between an englsih and a welsh if not for more readed hair ? That's called a confirmation bias.

 

They should never have appointed a romanian ref for this game. And everyhing would have  set down. Now, it gets traction in french and british press. I don't believe WR will go full retard on this one (like asking for replaying the game), but some people will need to go down at Rugby Europe.

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9 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

It was just bad refeering. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like, us, frenchies, we like to believe we're contantly fucked over by referees in european games, because, really, what's the difference between an englsih and a welsh if not for more readed hair ? That's called a confirmation bias.

 

They should never have appointed a romanian ref for this game. And everyhing would have  set down. Now, it gets traction in french and british press. I don't believe WR will go full retard on this one (like asking for replaying the game), but some people will need to go down at Rugby Europe.

 

Oh come on, a Welsh man is definitely not going to be biased towards the English, if anything it would be quite the opposite :p.

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9 hours ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

It was just bad refeering. Nothing more, nothing less. Just like, us, frenchies, we like to believe we're contantly fucked over by referees in european games, because, really, what's the difference between an englsih and a welsh if not for more readed hair ? That's called a confirmation bias.

 

They should never have appointed a romanian ref for this game. And everyhing would have  set down. Now, it gets traction in french and british press. I don't believe WR will go full retard on this one (like asking for replaying the game), but some people will need to go down at Rugby Europe.

It's rather unfortunate that a referee from country X gets a match in which his country will go to the World Cup with a certain result and right in that match he has a bad day and right in that bad day, that results in the specific result needed for his own country to qualify. Rugby Europe's president being Romanian as well is just another unfortunate situation in all of this. 

 

Imagine the group phase of the FIFA World Cup:

 

Team A

Team B

Team C

Team D

 

In the last set of matches, team C plays against team D and the result of that has a direct influence on team B qualifying for the knock-out phase (as in, team C winning means team B qualifies). Not even FIFA would appoint a referee from the nation of team B for that match, that would have corruption smell out of every side and rightly so. 

 

No, this was awful. A huge scandal. 

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Il y a 10 heures , OlympicIRL a déclaré:

 

Oh come on, a Welsh man is definitely not going to be biased towards the English, if anything it would be quite the opposite :p.

 

 

Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English from our perspective they are only cosmetic differences when it comes to rugby (and specially refeering). I wouldn't surprise if more than half of the rugby followers here believe than Nigel Owens is actually english :lol:

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Il y a 1 heure , heywoodu a déclaré:

It's rather unfortunate that a referee from country X gets a match in which his country will go to the World Cup with a certain result and right in that match he has a bad day and right in that bad day, that results in the specific result needed for his own country to qualify. Rugby Europe's president being Romanian as well is just another unfortunate situation in all of this. 

 

Imagine the group phase of the FIFA World Cup:

 

Team A

Team B

Team C

Team D

 

In the last set of matches, team C plays against team D and the result of that has a direct influence on team B qualifying for the knock-out phase (as in, team C winning means team B qualifies). Not even FIFA would appoint a referee from the nation of team B for that match, that would have corruption smell out of every side and rightly so. 

 

No, this was awful. A huge scandal. 

 

Unfortunate is the word (whithout irony) . Rugby Europe is a rather amateur organization which have done quite a poor job at developping its owns competitions for years (they don't run SIx Nations nor the european clubs cups). It's more likely than they have made a piss poor decision one more time than antyting else.

 

It's even more likely considering that

- The - promising - career of the romanian referee is probably over now

- Romania would still have stood a decent chance to make the RWC with the repechage tournaments

- RE appointed a french ref for the Spain-Romania game when 2/3 of the spanish squad is actually french born.

 

Occam's razor always.

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For the first time in the history Romania will miss World Cup. International federation excluded Romania from WC because we used a player which played in 2013 for Tonga. Sione Faka'osilea played for Tonga in Rugby Sevens World Series 2013. Same situation for Spain and Belgium. Now Russia is qualified directly to Tokyo and Germany will play play-off. I don't understand why we've been excluded because Rugby Sevens and Rugby are two different sports basically. 

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Sounds rather lucky for World Rugby (or whoever was in charge) that this ineligible player situation came up, now they don't really need to deal with the situation around the Romanian referee in charge of a match which had direct influence on Romania's chances to qualify.. 

 

Edit: Apparently they did make a statement about this, which really leaves nothing to the imagination about the referee.

 

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'World Rugby pointed to the analysis of the referee’s performance carried out after the game (such an analysis is carried out with all international referees) which suggested that the referee’s performance had been poor, not up to usual standards, and had focussed on refereeing one team and ignoring the other.'

 

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