OlympicsFan 776 Posted February 11, 2022 #131 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Vektor said: Germany is winning these sliding gold medals so easily, the luge relay was the only event where there was any real suspense. It's honestly a bit silly how one nation can dominate this much, while China just comes in out of nowhere with athletes who didn't even compete a few years ago and takes the bronze. Even speed skating is less boring because at the very least there are always have some non-Dutch stars, like Nils van der Poel this time. 1) It is much more difficult to dominate speed skating. 2) People who don’t like sliding sports should be happy about German domination. 3) Not sure if Van der Poel is a good example. Isn’t he a Dutch who switched to Sweden because he couldn’t make the Dutch team? Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 776 Posted February 11, 2022 #132 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Monzanator said: Luge & bobsleigh is heavily dependant on facilities and the only reason Germany doesn't dominate skeleton is the fact their athletes also start late just like most of the other nations involved. And those skeletonists aren't even third-rate lugers who switched events for better results, Grotheer & Jungk are failed ski jumpers of all things. If one day Germany decides to breed designed skeletonists since age 6-7 then it will be all over just like it's the case with luge & bobsleigh. You are clearly exaggerating. Germany isn’t super dominant in any of those events, especially if you take Francesco Friedrich out of the equation. Without him the German bob team is very ordinary. In the end Germany seems to have had superior material, but it can look completely different in 4 years. Personally I don’t quite understand how GB can have superior material in track cycling but horrible material in sliding sports. If you want to make the competitions more exciting, you could just give everyone the same material. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 169 Posted February 11, 2022 #133 Share Posted February 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: 1) It is much more difficult to dominate speed skating. 2) People who don’t like sliding sports should be happy about German domination. 3) Not sure if Van der Poel is a good example. Isn’t he a Dutch who switched to Sweden because he couldn’t make the Dutch team? Nope. He is Swedish with a Dutch grandfather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaker2001 242 Posted February 11, 2022 #134 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said: 1) It is much more difficult to dominate speed skating. 2) People who don’t like sliding sports should be happy about German domination. 3) Not sure if Van der Poel is a good example. Isn’t he a Dutch who switched to Sweden because he couldn’t make the Dutch team? Born in Sweden. He can claim Dutch ancestry, but he is 100% Swedish Paris 2024 competition schedule by Day Paris 2024 competition schedule by Sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted February 11, 2022 #135 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said: You are clearly exaggerating. Germany isn’t super dominant in any of those events, especially if you take Francesco Friedrich out of the equation. Without him the German bob team is very ordinary. In the end Germany seems to have had superior material, but it can look completely different in 4 years. Personally I don’t quite understand how GB can have superior material in track cycling but horrible material in sliding sports. If you want to make the competitions more exciting, you could just give everyone the same material. Been watching this for 30 years. Germany are ALWAYS in the bobsleigh mix so nothing will look different in four years time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted 85 Posted February 11, 2022 #136 Share Posted February 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, Monzanator said: Been watching this for 30 years. Germany are ALWAYS in the bobsleigh mix so nothing will look different in four years time Don't mind me. Just quoting quotes. What more do Germans have to accomplish in sliding sports to be considered dominant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted February 11, 2022 #137 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ted said: Don't mind me. Just quoting quotes. What more do Germans have to accomplish in sliding sports to be considered dominant? There is only one answer - nothing Ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted February 11, 2022 #138 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Not surprised to hear that Yun grew sick of skeleton and basically couldn't wait for the Olympics to be over so that he can finally retire. His entire skeleton career has been... circumstantial. There were already strong rumours he would retire after Pyeongchang, but I guess they forced hin to continue riding the wave even though in retrospect it should have been obvious what was bound to happen - Yun burning out. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,526 Posted February 11, 2022 #139 Share Posted February 11, 2022 2 hours ago, OlympicsFan said: 1) It is much more difficult to dominate speed skating. 2) People who don’t like sliding sports should be happy about German domination. 3) Not sure if Van der Poel is a good example. Isn’t he a Dutch who switched to Sweden because he couldn’t make the Dutch team? no, he's a true Swede, born and raised in that Country...he only has 3rd generation heritage from the Netherlands (his grandfather was Dutch)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,172 Posted February 11, 2022 #140 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Federer91 said: I will never understand how skeleton (and bob) have countries like Australia, UK, Korea, China, Netherlands competing at the highest level, but i've never seen them in luge at all There are many reasons. Biggest of all is that in bobsleigh and skeleton so many athletes switch from another sports. There are countless former decathletes in bobsleigh (including Friedrich, for example). Luge is much more technical and requires athletes to start from very young age to be competitive at the highest level. Having a track is a prerequisite, but technology is key as well. LowerSaxony and phelps 2 #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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