phelps 6,858 Posted February 18, 2022 #541 Share Posted February 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Monzanator said: However making quad jumps is what separates the Russians from the rest so that is the whole point. You don't win gold medals in figure skating on stamina but on technical content in the end. I'll still take Witt's words over yours no matter if she's not a doctor Obviously Valieva, Trusova & Shcherbakova won't be back for the next Olympics though. Russians will send a new wave of teenagers to Cortina. I read Robin Cousins' comments on BBC how they all have probably two more Olympics ahead of them. What a load of crap. This might be true for nations with zero depth where one skater has literally no competition to speak of (Poland!) but not Russia. then, the main question is: how do you make them do those quad jumps? overtraining? and if it's because of (too much) hard training, how do you make them sustain this routine day after day? not with gentle encouragement words, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted February 18, 2022 #542 Share Posted February 18, 2022 16 hours ago, Monzanator said: However making quad jumps is what separates the Russians from the rest so that is the whole point. You don't win gold medals in figure skating on stamina but on technical content in the end. I'll still take Witt's words over yours no matter if she's not a doctor But the extra stamina might be exactly what allows the Russians to perform quads while the rest of the world cannot. I'm not taking it as a fact, but just as a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted February 18, 2022 #543 Share Posted February 18, 2022 19 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said: That's total rubbish. Glad you will never be heard and the rule will never come. I'm all ok with 15 years as minimum. LOL. This actually sounds like "I'm glad no one listens to your demands because I'm quite happy that my demands are accounted for." Either way, it's undeniable that there needs to be a discussion about the age limit, whether we like it or not. Thankfully, both women's artistic and rhythmic gymnastics are progressively reaching a point where proposing a minimum age limit of 18 years old would not be awkward. Most of the girls who are fighting for medals are 20 to 25 years old nowadays, and the most notable exceptions are the Russians. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,210 Posted February 19, 2022 #544 Share Posted February 19, 2022 My fear of implementing a minimum age is that it wouldn't do much to stop this and would in fact allow it to be more hidden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted February 19, 2022 #545 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Tarasova/Morozov are usually such a dumpster fire in free skates. I think they will drop out of the medals. M/G are the only ones who can threat home pair, but I don't think it's happening. Fans don't like them. Judges don't like them. With a clean program they will be silver at best. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted February 19, 2022 #546 Share Posted February 19, 2022 A completely failed lift for Don't see that too often. Ugh. Another one. The guy looks injured tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerSaxony 205 Posted February 19, 2022 #547 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Just now, Monzanator said: A completely failed lift for Don't see that too often. Ugh. Another one. The guy looks injured tbh. No, he was recently released from his 2 weeks incarceration after a positive Covid test prior to the Opening Ceremony. dcro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,572 Posted February 19, 2022 #548 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Monzanator said: A completely failed lift for Don't see that too often. Ugh. Another one. The guy looks injured tbh. It was a total debacle, a total disaster for Seegert He had the covid, I think that has some physical problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted February 19, 2022 #549 Share Posted February 19, 2022 What a rough skate. Two aborted lifts. Must be the result of two weeks in the so-called isolation. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerSaxony 205 Posted February 19, 2022 #550 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 minute ago, LowerSaxony said: No, he was recently released from his 2 weeks incarceration after a positive Covid test prior to the Opening Ceremony. After all, I think nearly all the athletes that had to go into quarantine in Beijing were not able to be competitive in his/her event. Riiber, Ilves, Frenzel, Seegert... did I missed someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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