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1 minute ago, JonPhi said:

Sweden is official! A disaster for Austria.

And Sweden has accepted 7 female quota 

 

but I agree a disaster for Austria 😂, even if Norway declines, 

funny that no one really likes them here. 
 

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Meanwhile, there will be 16 (!) reallocations in the women's field. Many will decline. I can almost see :POL Poland getting yet another spot. We know they will accept. :lol:

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If the :AUT men’s team can’t find medals with 9/10 skiers, it says a lot more about the current level of their skiing than the qualification system :whistle:

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21 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

If the :AUT men’s team can’t find medals with 9/10 skiers, it says a lot more about the current level of their skiing than the qualification system :whistle:

Disagree here. First, it's not all about medals. Even the 10th and 11th skiier from Austria could easily compete for TOP 10 results.

Moreover, the qualification system would have allowed Germany to send 7 women + 3 via reallocation which is more than entire number of female German skiiers that competed in this year's WC races :p THAT says a lot about the qualification system.

 

Whatever. Any future qualification system has to secure that athletes from "exotic" nations and WC level athletes do not compete for the same quota places. The qualification system for WC level athletes and those athletes who just represent their country needs to be separated, badly.

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25 minutes ago, LowerSaxony said:

Whatever. Any future qualification system has to secure that athletes from "exotic" nations and WC level athletes do not compete for the same quota places. The qualification system for WC level athletes and those athletes who just represent their country needs to be separated, badly.

That won't save as many quotas as you think, FIS would just subtract the "exotic" nations quotas from the overall count.

 

A better system would be only award the basic quota to nations which have not qualified a male/female athlete. This gets rid of the +1 quotas for the middle tier nations.

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24 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

That won't save as many quotas as you think, FIS would just subtract the "exotic" nations quotas from the overall count.

 

A better system would be only award the basic quota to nations which have not qualified a male/female athlete. This gets rid of the +1 quotas for the middle tier nations.

The middle tier nations, such as those qualified for team event etc., do not have too many quota places, in my opinion. Those nations suffer from this qualification system, too, as nations like Croatia, Russia, New Zealand etc. do not have that many athletes in the TOP 30 lists and, thus, do not have that many quotas.

The current qualification system means: Anytime a nation manages to get an athlete below the required FIS points criteria, the available places which are allocated via the Olympic Quota Allocation List (D.3) are reduced by one. I like the idea of a broad representation of small nations, but I don't think it's good when Austria has to hope that Israel or Kenya declines a quota place in order to get their world class athlete to the Olympics. With the given number of quota places the share of "low class" athletes is simply too high, at least for Alpine Skiing. For this reason, the qualification system should state that the maximum number of athletes to qualify via "basic quota" is X and the maximum number of athletes to qualify via World Cup is Y.

 

Ofc, the entire problem would be solved if they just raise the overall number of athletes but that likely won't happen ;-)

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