Belle 720 Posted January 2, 2022 #271 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Dutch team will be announced at 17.30 CET, live on TV The biggest question is which of these eleven names will be left out: Krol Roest Nuis Verbij Bergsma Scheperkamp Otterspeer Snel Ntab Kramer Bosker Personally I think Ntab and Snel. Amazing team. Sad for the two out whoever they will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted January 2, 2022 #272 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Surely the Dutch can't win the team pursuit with or without Bosker? USA are the favorites, right? If so, then Snel could and really should take them to court if they select Bosker... #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,536 Posted January 2, 2022 #273 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, dcro said: Surely the Dutch can't win the team pursuit with or without Bosker? USA are the favorites, right? If so, then Snel could and really should take them to court if they select Bosker... I wouldn't say that so easily. There has been only one team pursuit this season where the Dutch did not start with a random selection of riders put together to form a B/C-team, and they won that one (and were significantly faster than the USA's top team, including Mantia, in the B group). No way Snel has a chance in court, if he'd try to defend his potential 8th place or something against a potential gold medal chance. No matter how you look at it, Roest - Kramer - Bosker form a team which has way, way, way more of a medal chance than Snel in the 1500m. Which is nothing against Snel by the way, I feel sad for him if he doesn't make it, but if they go for medal potential above anything else, they really should select Bosker over him. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 600 Posted January 2, 2022 #274 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Kramer and Bosker in. Ntab and Snel out. Bosker will skate the team pursuit and 1.500m. Kramer will skate the team pursuit, mass start (!) and 5k. Krol will replace Ntab and will therefore skate the 500, 1.000 and 1.500m. dcro and Ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 600 Posted January 2, 2022 #275 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Ted, dcro and rafalgorka 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,536 Posted January 2, 2022 #276 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Sad for Ntab and Snel, but yeah....this is the result of a system like this and simply having too much quality overall Although the reason for Kramer's mass start selection is somewhat laughable, to say the least: "A big name like Kramer entering the Olympic mass start might 'startle' the other riders." Sure. Granddad without his final sprint will surely scare the likes of Swing, Giovannini, Chung, Lee or Mantia NearPup and intoronto 2 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monte88 17 Posted January 2, 2022 #277 Share Posted January 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Sad for Ntab and Snel, but yeah....this is the result of a system like this and simply having too much quality overall Although the reason for Kramer's mass start selection is somewhat laughable, to say the least: "A big name like Kramer entering the Olympic mass start might 'startle' the other riders." Sure. Granddad without his final sprint will surely scare the likes of Swing, Giovannini, Chung, Lee or Mantia We also send a Grandad with great hopes - Zbigniew Bródka. He's older than Kramer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted January 2, 2022 #278 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, heywoodu said: Sad for Ntab and Snel, but yeah....this is the result of a system like this and simply having too much quality overall Although the reason for Kramer's mass start selection is somewhat laughable, to say the least: "A big name like Kramer entering the Olympic mass start might 'startle' the other riders." Sure. Granddad without his final sprint will surely scare the likes of Swing, Giovannini, Chung, Lee or Mantia Watch Kramer win the mass start from a speculative breakaway just to mess with all of us. heywoodu, Ted and intoronto 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,536 Posted January 2, 2022 #279 Share Posted January 2, 2022 43 minutes ago, NearPup said: Watch Kramer win the mass start from a speculative breakaway just to mess with all of us. If Kramer goes into the breakaway, it'll be curious to see if he can stay ahead of the Bergsma-led chase dcro 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,536 Posted January 3, 2022 #280 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I love Dutch speed skating. Now Roest is pissed because they put Bosker in the 1500m instead of him (since Bosker had to do an individual event in order to be eligible for the team pursuit....which could and arguably should have been the mass start, but they gave that spot to Kramer to 'scare' the competition ) Roest, Bosker and Kramer are all actual teammates, mind you. And Bergsma's coach is also pissed because the second mass start spot wasn't automatically given to one of his riders a year before the Olympics (Arjan Stroetinga). phelps and Ted 1 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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