El Greco 21 11 Posted July 12, 2021 #1 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I am thinking of creating a point system, to create a kind of a league counting all olympic sports results effecting in one table. My idea is this: for every Olympic final teams will be awarded points as follows: 1st-25pts, 2nd-18pts, 3rd-15pts, 4th-8pts, 5th-5pts, 6th-3pts, 7th-2pts, 8th-1pt. For sports that there is no official ranking for positions 5-8, teams that reached quarter finals will be awarded 5pts, as the 5th position takes. In order to make it more "fair" I think to have a multiplier depending on each country's team size and population. I will create an accumulate table containing both numbers and I will create one single ranking depending the positions of each country in those two categories. For example if country A is 5th in population but 10th in team size, that makes 15 in the final ranking. From that final ranking each teams points, in every final, will be multiplied as follows: Teams ranked 1-20: x1 teams ranked 21-50:x2 teams ranked 51-100:x3 teams ranked 101-150: x4 teams ranked 150 and so: x5 Tell me what you think, and maybe someone has a better idea. Improvements needed, and maybe someone would like to help to the calculations. I never done it before, I believe I could make it! rafalgorka, Zodo and bmo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmo 180 Posted July 13, 2021 #2 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Would be interested to know the results, especially since you are considering team size and population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Greco 21 11 Posted July 13, 2021 Author #3 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 hours ago, bmo said: Would be interested to know the results, especially since you are considering team size and population. Attempts like these never are entirely "fair", but I will try to make them as much as possibble. I am planning to post results here at the end of each day during the games Sindo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Greco 21 11 Posted July 13, 2021 Author #4 Share Posted July 13, 2021 For personal reasons, I would not probably be able to follow the action as extensively as needed, in order to keep up with the point system needed. If there is not anyone else who would like to try it, I would like to ask to the moderators (@Sindo) to hide and close the topic. It was an idea that I had a long time in my mind, but the circumstances are not proper for me right now to do such thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmo 180 Posted July 13, 2021 #5 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 hour ago, El Greco 21 said: For personal reasons, I would not probably be able to follow the action as extensively as needed, in order to keep up with the point system needed. If there is not anyone else who would like to try it, I would like to ask to the moderators (@Sindo) to hide and close the topic. It was an idea that I had a long time in my mind, but the circumstances are not proper for me right now to do such thing You could always do it after the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Greco 21 11 Posted July 13, 2021 Author #6 Share Posted July 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, bmo said: You could always do it after the games That's true, I always thought it as a day to day live league. But I guess you are right, I will have it in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodo 42 Posted July 21, 2021 #7 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Hello guys, I will do the live updated standings for @El Greco 21 as he can't do them himself. I'll post the format of how the updated standings will get to you here later but you won't have to wait long for it. Also, sorry if I seem a little shady, I am a slight Olympic fanatic like most of you all, but I only found out about this site a couple of weeks back and I am also not a big fan of just talking about sport and the Games, so when I found out about this fun idea and also that the guy who came up with it can't do live updates, I created this account a week ago and asked if I can do them for him, he allowed me and here I am (I don't really think I needes his permission, but I did ask for it just in case). Hopefully this can make me more positively known on this site El Greco 21 and Sindo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Greco 21 11 Posted July 21, 2021 Author #8 Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zodo said: Hello guys, I will do the live updated standings for @El Greco 21 as he can't do them himself. I'll post the format of how the updated standings will get to you here later but you won't have to wait long for it. Also, sorry if I seem a little shady, I am a slight Olympic fanatic like most of you all, but I only found out about this site a couple of weeks back and I am also not a big fan of just talking about sport and the Games, so when I found out about this fun idea and also that the guy who came up with it can't do live updates, I created this account a week ago and asked if I can do them for him, he allowed me and here I am (I don't really think I needes his permission, but I did ask for it just in case). Hopefully this can make me more positively known on this site Go on Zodo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodo 42 Posted July 23, 2021 #9 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Happy "this league will technically start only in around 8 hours" moment! As I said, I will give you the format of the standings posts in this one post. Hopefully you like it and if you don't, you can tell your critiques or if you have some, recommendations on this very thread. Ok, rambling over, let's get to the format! At around 2 AM GMT of every day from tomorrow all the way up to August 8th, a post will be up listing (in order): 1) Current standings of that day (updates throughout the day) 2) Current total standings (updates throughout too) 3) Some trivia (most positions gained/lost by a NOC, newcomers to the total standings and etc.) Also, here's the multipliers each NOC will get added to their earned points (@El Greco 21 tell me if I gave them wrong): 1x: USA - 1st team by size, 3rd country by population = 4 Japan - 2nd team by size, 11th country by population = 13 China - 5th team by size, 1st country by population = 6 Russia (ROC) - 11th team by size, 9th country by population = 20 Brazil - 12th team by size, 6th country by population = 18 2x: Germany - 4th team by size, 19th country by population = 23 France - 6th team by size, 20th country by population = 26 GB - 7th team by size, 21st country by population = 28 Italy - 8th team by size, 25th country by population = 33 Canada - 9th team by size, 37th country by population = 46 Spain - 10th team by size, 30th country by population = 40 South Korea - 14th team by size, 27th country by population = 41 South Africa - 17th team by size, 23rd country by population = 40 Argentina - 18th team by size, 31st country by population = 49 Mexico - 20th team by size, 10th country by population = 30 Egypt - 23rd team by size, 14th country by population = 37 India - 25th team by size, 2nd country by population = 27 Turkey - 28th team by size, 18th country by population = 46 3x: Australia - 3rd team by size, 53rd country by population = 53 Netherlands - 13th team by size, 67th country by population = 80 Poland - 16th team by size, 38th country by population = 54 Ukraine - 21st team by size, 35th country by population = 56 Romania - 31st team by size, 61st country by population = 92 Kazakhstan - 33rd team by size, 62nd country by population = 95 Kenya - 37th team by size, 29th country by population = 66 Colombia - 40th team by size, 28th country by population = 68 Taiwan (Chinese Taipei) - 42nd team by size, ~57th "country" (not UN recognized) by population = 99 Iran - 43rd team by size, 17th country by population = 60 Uzbekistan - 44th team by size, 40th country by population = 84 Nigeria - 48th team by size, 7th country by population = 55 Morocco - 53rd team by size, 39th country by population = 92 Algeria - 55th team by size, 32nd country by population = 87 Thailand - 60th team by size, 22nd country by population = 82 Indonesia - 77th team by size, 4th country by population = 81 Philippines - 87th team by size, 13th country by population = 100 4x: New Zealand - 15th team by size, 121st country by population = 136 Hungary - 19th team by size, 91st country by population = 110 Sweden - 22nd team by size, 88th country by population = 110 Belgium - 24th team by size, 82nd country by population = 106 Ireland - 26th team by size, 122nd country by population = 148 Czech Republic - 27th team by size, 86th country by population = 113 Switzerland - 29th team by size, 99th country by population = 128 Belarus - 32nd team by size, 96th country by population = 128 Denmark - 30th team by size, 112th country by population = 142 Portugal - 34th team by size, 89th country by population = 123 Israel - 35th team by size, 95th country by population = 130 Serbia - 36th team by size, 106th country by population = 142 Greece - 38th team by size, 85th country by population = 123 Cuba - 41st team by size, 83rd country by population = 124 Dominican Republic - 45th team by size, 87th country by population = 132 Tunisia - 46th team by size, 80th country by population = 126 Austria - 47th team by size, 98th country by population = 145 Chile - 50th team by size, 60th country by population = 110 Ecuador - 54th team by size, 66th country by population = 120 Venezuela - 56th team by size, 50th country by population = 106 Azerbaijan - 57th team by size, 90th country by population = 147 Peru - 67th team by size, 42nd country by population = 109 Malaysia - 73rd team by size, 44th country by population = 117 Saudi Arabia - 76th team by size, 41st country by population = 117 Ivory Coast - 78th team by size, 51st country by population = 129 Zambia - 79th team by size, 64th country by population = 143 Uganda - 80th team by size, 34th country by population = 114 Guatemala - 81st team by size, 69th country by population = 150 Angola - 85th team by size, 45th country by population = 130 Vietnam - 88th team by size, 15th country by population = 103 Ghana - 94th team by size, 46th country by population = 140 Pakistan - 107th team by size, 5th country by population = 112 DR Congo - 123rd team by size, 16th country by population = 139 Bangladesh - 128th team by size, 8th country by population = 136 5x: Other NOCs Also also, I want to propose a change in the points system (pick one of these two Greco to either replace yours as the universal points or let me utilize one of them in race disciplines while yours will stay as the knockout tournament points system or none or both): 1st: 1st earns 25 points, 2nd earns 18, 3rd earns 12, 4th earns 9, 5th earns 6, 6th earns 4, 7th earns 2, 8th earns 1 2nd: 1st earns 25 points, 2nd earns 18, 3rd earns 12, 4th earns 6, 5th earns 4, 6th earns 3, 7th earns 2, 8th earns 1 They give a bigger reward for getting into the final of a knockout tournament or 2nd over 3rd in a race discipline. Anyways, see you tomorrow, or today, if questions, critiques or recommendations arise! Gianlu33 and El Greco 21 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Greco 21 11 Posted July 24, 2021 Author #10 Share Posted July 24, 2021 8 hours ago, Zodo said: Happy "this league will technically start only in around 8 hours" moment! As I said, I will give you the format of the standings posts in this one post. Hopefully you like it and if you don't, you can tell your critiques or if you have some, recommendations on this very thread. Ok, rambling over, let's get to the format! At around 2 AM GMT of every day from tomorrow all the way up to August 8th, a post will be up listing (in order): 1) Current standings of that day (updates throughout the day) 2) Current total standings (updates throughout too) 3) Some trivia (most positions gained/lost by a NOC, newcomers to the total standings and etc.) Also, here's the multipliers each NOC will get added to their earned points (@El Greco 21 tell me if I gave them wrong): 1x: USA - 1st team by size, 3rd country by population = 4 Japan - 2nd team by size, 11th country by population = 13 China - 5th team by size, 1st country by population = 6 Russia (ROC) - 11th team by size, 9th country by population = 20 Brazil - 12th team by size, 6th country by population = 18 2x: Germany - 4th team by size, 19th country by population = 23 France - 6th team by size, 20th country by population = 26 GB - 7th team by size, 21st country by population = 28 Italy - 8th team by size, 25th country by population = 33 Canada - 9th team by size, 37th country by population = 46 Spain - 10th team by size, 30th country by population = 40 South Korea - 14th team by size, 27th country by population = 41 South Africa - 17th team by size, 23rd country by population = 40 Argentina - 18th team by size, 31st country by population = 49 Mexico - 20th team by size, 10th country by population = 30 Egypt - 23rd team by size, 14th country by population = 37 India - 25th team by size, 2nd country by population = 27 Turkey - 28th team by size, 18th country by population = 46 3x: Australia - 3rd team by size, 53rd country by population = 53 Netherlands - 13th team by size, 67th country by population = 80 Poland - 16th team by size, 38th country by population = 54 Ukraine - 21st team by size, 35th country by population = 56 Romania - 31st team by size, 61st country by population = 92 Kazakhstan - 33rd team by size, 62nd country by population = 95 Kenya - 37th team by size, 29th country by population = 66 Colombia - 40th team by size, 28th country by population = 68 Taiwan (Chinese Taipei) - 42nd team by size, ~57th "country" (not UN recognized) by population = 99 Iran - 43rd team by size, 17th country by population = 60 Uzbekistan - 44th team by size, 40th country by population = 84 Nigeria - 48th team by size, 7th country by population = 55 Morocco - 53rd team by size, 39th country by population = 92 Algeria - 55th team by size, 32nd country by population = 87 Thailand - 60th team by size, 22nd country by population = 82 Indonesia - 77th team by size, 4th country by population = 81 Philippines - 87th team by size, 13th country by population = 100 4x: New Zealand - 15th team by size, 121st country by population = 136 Hungary - 19th team by size, 91st country by population = 110 Sweden - 22nd team by size, 88th country by population = 110 Belgium - 24th team by size, 82nd country by population = 106 Ireland - 26th team by size, 122nd country by population = 148 Czech Republic - 27th team by size, 86th country by population = 113 Switzerland - 29th team by size, 99th country by population = 128 Belarus - 32nd team by size, 96th country by population = 128 Denmark - 30th team by size, 112th country by population = 142 Portugal - 34th team by size, 89th country by population = 123 Israel - 35th team by size, 95th country by population = 130 Serbia - 36th team by size, 106th country by population = 142 Greece - 38th team by size, 85th country by population = 123 Cuba - 41st team by size, 83rd country by population = 124 Dominican Republic - 45th team by size, 87th country by population = 132 Tunisia - 46th team by size, 80th country by population = 126 Austria - 47th team by size, 98th country by population = 145 Chile - 50th team by size, 60th country by population = 110 Ecuador - 54th team by size, 66th country by population = 120 Venezuela - 56th team by size, 50th country by population = 106 Azerbaijan - 57th team by size, 90th country by population = 147 Peru - 67th team by size, 42nd country by population = 109 Malaysia - 73rd team by size, 44th country by population = 117 Saudi Arabia - 76th team by size, 41st country by population = 117 Ivory Coast - 78th team by size, 51st country by population = 129 Zambia - 79th team by size, 64th country by population = 143 Uganda - 80th team by size, 34th country by population = 114 Guatemala - 81st team by size, 69th country by population = 150 Angola - 85th team by size, 45th country by population = 130 Vietnam - 88th team by size, 15th country by population = 103 Ghana - 94th team by size, 46th country by population = 140 Pakistan - 107th team by size, 5th country by population = 112 DR Congo - 123rd team by size, 16th country by population = 139 Bangladesh - 128th team by size, 8th country by population = 136 5x: Other NOCs Also also, I want to propose a change in the points system (pick one of these two Greco to either replace yours as the universal points or let me utilize one of them in race disciplines while yours will stay as the knockout tournament points system or none or both): 1st: 1st earns 25 points, 2nd earns 18, 3rd earns 12, 4th earns 9, 5th earns 6, 6th earns 4, 7th earns 2, 8th earns 1 2nd: 1st earns 25 points, 2nd earns 18, 3rd earns 12, 4th earns 6, 5th earns 4, 6th earns 3, 7th earns 2, 8th earns 1 They give a bigger reward for getting into the final of a knockout tournament or 2nd over 3rd in a race discipline. Anyways, see you tomorrow, or today, if questions, critiques or recommendations arise! Good work, this is how in a way I had it on my mind. Bravo for the whole work. I am really excited to see how this will be unfolded. All sports, each position matters!!! I like the proposals you make about the pointing system, it is a good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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