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  1. 15 hours ago, thepharoah said:

    Whom France was trying to copy Commonwealth Games , but they failed to spread 

    That's not exactly true. These games were set by the francophone organisation at the end of the 80's as first and foremost a cultural thing. :FRA never show much interest in them (there are zero media coverage here).

     

    We had our own political Commonwealth Games. But there was only one edition in 1960 which was very orignaly called "Jeux de la Communauté" (no translation needed I think ):rolleyes:

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    2 minutes ago, phelps said:

    well, you need a dedicated big sized stadium (expensive, even if it normally have small stands) and it's always about the same 12 Nations qualifying in both men and women's tournaments (and not all of them are truly competitive at the highest level)

     

    in terms of competitivity it's more or less like Waterpolo...too little interest outside the usual 4/5 places

     

    p.s. I like FH and WP and I don't want them to be thrown out of the Olympic schedule, but I understand if someone shuold make it a case 

    international federations should try and find the way to develop those sports in a lot more places

    WP is safe because it's part of FINA. If it had it's own federation (like some WP enthousiasts wish for), it would be the one to go.

  3. 5 minutes ago, AsensioWillemsen said:

    I can understand if Boxing or Weightlifting would be cut. Even MP I can understand why they would, but if they do, it's the end for MP as a whole. Cutting them for team sports doesn't seem too great for me. Cricket would really just be for the Indian market. Baseball has been tried over and over and it is... well... not great for the games.

     

    I'd rather try Cricket over having Baseball though. Don't see them cutting Rugby Sevens btw, that seems highly unlikely to me. Even here I feel like there are quite some people who follow the Sevens tourney above everything else. If they need to cut a team sport, it would be Field Hockey, but the western European countries dominating that (GB, Germany) sure won't like that.

     

    I feel for cutting sports there must be a pretty clear reason.

     

    Indeed. People have forgoten that, but when Wrestling was cut, the second sport following whith the most votes to be excluded was Field Hockey.

  4. Beaucoup de premières historiques :FRA durant ces mondiaux :wub:

     

    - Première médaille dans une épreuve olympique pour le plongeon 

    - Première fois que la France remporte 4 titres en individuel dans le bassin

    - Première fois que la France remporte 4 titres dans des épreuves olympiques en natation

    - Meilleur résultat de l'histoire en championnat du monde pour les poloïstes

     

    Et aussi 4 unes de l'Equipe pour la natation !

  5. 24 minutes ago, Vektor said:

    All these new sports are being considered, while they want to drop legacy sports... Weightlifting is one of the most iconic Olympic sports, there must be a solution to save it. Like, I would even take the option to get rid of the weight classes and have only one men and one women competition (essentially only the highest weight class) instead of completely removing from the program. This isn't a sport that can exist outside of the Olympics, unlike boxing. Same for modern pentathlon. IOC must realize that they will literally kill MP if it's out of the program. There goes a sport with 100 years of history. 

     

    There must be other solutions. Like only including new sports that will justify an increase in the budget. If it's such a net positive decision to include cricket, just increase the number of the athlete quotas. Those Indian broadcasting rights can pay for the increase in the budget.

     

    The only solutions that exist are radicals : e.g. splitting the summer OG, going for a more lose organisation like the European Championships, this kind of things.

  6. 7 hours ago, Rafa Maciel said:

    Multiple media outlets in UK reporting that T20 cricket is "very likely" to feature on the 2028 Olympic programme. With the format being a pool of 5 teams for both men and women. 

     

    Qualification would be based on world rankings so would include :IND:NZL:PAK:RSA and :GBR for men and :IND:NZL:AUS:RSA and :GBR for women (always assuming Scottish cricket don't raise any stupid objections) If they reserve spot for :USA as home nation, then :RSA would lose out in both cases.

     

    It looks like this is purely being driven by money - if cricket is included, the value of broadcast rights in India could increase to 10 times their current value - but it would eat up about 110 athlete quotas.

     

    Given it has to be a pretty safe bet that baseball/softball is also going to return to the programme and that is going to require around 230 athlete quotas, it begs the questions, where do these 340 quotas come from? 

     

    Looking at the Paris quota breakdown, for the non-core sports (breaking, skateboarding, sport climbing and surfing), given USA will be expecting to medal in skateboarding and surfing, I can't see them being dropped. Likewise, I think sport climbing is becoming established in the programme so would be unlikely to be dropped. This means the only sport not likely to return in Los Angeles is breaking but that only frees up 36 quotas. Boxing, Weightlifting and Modern Pentathlon aren't officially on the schedule yet so you'd have to assume that the quotas will come from those 3 sports. Modern pentathlon probably joins breaking as a goner - freeing up another 72 quotas but that would still leave 200 short. 

     

    Losing 23 individual medal events to be replaced by 4 team medals would seem to be a bit extreme.

    I'm assuming Indian media rights have allready been sold for 2028 (if anyone can confirm) and in any case, IOC will bank the extra revenues, not LA 2028.

     

    From a Los Angeles point, there is little to nothing to gain, and there is a cricket stadium to built somewhere... Make little sense tbh. And the quotas issue makes it literraly impossible.

     

     

  7. 43 minutes ago, SalamAkhi said:

    J'ai quand même l'impression que ça se résorbe. Il y a encore quelques années je pense qu'on pouvait dire qu'aucun sport n'était plus féminin que masculin. Dans le sens où les disciplines où les Françaises dominaient étaient au moins autant dominés par les Français, sinon plus. Là en judo par exemple avantage clair aux filles. En natation c'est assez équilibré même si les filles manquent d'un Marchand ou d'un Grousset.

    En cyclisme sur piste le rééquilibrage est impressionnant. Les hommes ramenaient toutes les médailles, le sprint F était exsangue, la distance F n'existait pas. 

     

    Bref, si on regarde les projections de l'Equipe (qui valent ce qu'elles valent) on aurait 29 médailles féminines pour 35 masculines (5 "neutres").

    C'est pas faux, l'athlé resterait une exception dans les sports individuels.

  8. Actually, there might an even more accurate way of doing things ; counting how many different athletes/teams has won a medal in an olympic event during the olympic cycle (so not exactly the last WC medals table, nor the total medals one which counts the same athletes/teams over and over)

     

    Apparently, this is how the french national sport agency is estimating the country medals chances. This cycle, they found out 107 podiums, and they assume a 50% convertion rate during the olympics (so 53-54 medals overall).

     

    Here @Sindo, some works for you for your hollidays :rolleyes:

  9. 32 minutes ago, Styrka said:

    Wow super boulot, un grand merci !

    Un peu triste de voir le sprint féminin (l'athlé féminin dans son ensemble ?) aussi désert, je vais être optimiste et dire que c'est un souci de génération seulement ! ;)

     

    C'est un phénomène qui risque de durer un peu... Aux récents Euros U23, les qualifiés homme sur les épreuves individuelles devaient être ~ 2 fois plus nombreux que leurs homologues féminines.

     

    C'est un problème très marqué en athlétisme récemment, mais c'est un peu commun à l'ensemble du sport français.

  10. 4 hours ago, JoshMartini007 said:

    We should do a comparison against the Latest World Championships Medal Table, if they aren't any more accurate then doing basic counting of defending champions then their method isn't good.

    It isn't :teacher:

     

      Tokyo 2020 Gracenote % off Totallympics % off
    :NED 36 48 33 % 37 3 %
    :FRA 33 42 27 % 42 27 %
    :JPN 58 60 3 % 59 2 %
    :ITA 40 41 3 % 36 10 %
    :RUS 71 68 4 % 73 3 %
    :GER 37 35 5 % 43 16 %
    :AUS 46 40 13 % 48 4 %
    :USA 113 96 15 % 100 12 %
    :GBR 64 52 19 % 53 17 %
    :CHN 89 66 26 % 96 8 %
               
    Average off     14,89 %   10,17 %

     

     

     

  11. 13 minutes ago, Vektor said:

    That projection seems insane for France. +22 gold medals compared to Tokyo. Not even Japan had that kind of increase (they had +15) and they got a bunch of favorable new events to perform stronger. I am not sure where French sport stands at the moment, but my guess would be in the range of 15-20 gold medals.

    That's my estimation as well (and 50-60 medals overall)

  12. 2 hours ago, Styrka said:

    Très franchement, je trouve ce pronostic fortement réalisable, chaque spotif/ve cité/e a déjà été médaillé mondial dans les 5 dernières années (à la louche..!) ; à croire qu'ils se sont inspirés de totallympics. :bones:

    Bon il y a quelques couleurs de médaille en lesquelles je ne crois pas du tout (le basket H en or..? ; Ferrand-Prévôt et Léona Lecomte qui font le doublé ?? ; Marie-Florence Candassamy qui se retrouve propulsée en or au lendemain de sa performance, dans l'épreuve la plus imprévisible de l'escrime...), mais ce qu'il y a de positif, c'est qu'il y encore plein d'autres médaillables non-cités ! :thumbup:

    Clair, ils ont oublié le futur champion olympique sur route. Mais ai-je besoin de le citer ? Valentin Madouas.

  13. 24 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said:

    I believe Gracenote Nielsen have released their medal projections for Paris.

     

    :USA 43 Gold  -  43 Silver   -   42 Bronze

    :FRA 32 Gold  -  30 Silver   -   11 Bronze

    :CHN 26 Gold  -  20 Silver   -   22 Bronze

    :ITA 20 Gold  -   13 Silver   -   12 Bronze

    :GBR 15 Gold   -  23 Silver   -   24 Bronze

     

    Not sure if anyone can share details of the individual sport breakdown. 

     

     

    Wa are defintly not going to win 32 gold medals :rolleyes: But, I believe we will have a three european nations battle for the third place between :FRA:GBR and :ITA

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