1 hour ago, JoshMartini007 said:

Will another supersuit record drop? The 400m free might be the events to watch for both genders

I don’t think that the record on the women’s side is a supersuited one (if that is what you meant). Almost all records are in danger. Only men’s 200/800 free, men’s 100 breast, men’s 200 back, women’s 200 fly and possibly men’s 200 fly seem safe. 

On 4/18/2024 at 11:29 PM, dullard said:

It doesn't clash with anything at trials and there's a small chance if breaststrokers fail to deliver at trials then Kaylee will be our best option for breaststroke in the medley relay so they might use Mollie for the backstroke leg. Something like O'Callaghan/McKeown/McKeon/Jack. She'd probably want to swim it anyway just to put down a tapered time in ideal conditions.

1) It clashes with the 200 free at the Olympics.

2) She already put down a time. Don’t see anyone who could realistically get close.

3) Don’t see how it would make sense to put McKeown on the breast leg. You would probably lose one second on the back and free leg (combined). McKeown would have to be 1.5 seconds faster than your second best breastroker to justify putting her there. Even if Strauch doesn’t improve till trials, McKeown would have to be 1:05 mid, which doesn’t seem realistic. In addition to that it wouldn’t help your athletes to swim against the American wave (considering that Smith most likely would open up a considerable gap for the U.S.).

1 hour ago, Mecki83 said:

Really a bad joke that already qualified shooters take part in this qualification tournament. 

Same as in basketball and football.

18 minutes ago, copravolley said:

Doping certainly did too, but it`s true that sport was very important there because of dignity + it was the only way to break out of poverty in the provinces, improve one's status, go abroad, etc. These are the two main factors.

 

However, you can invest in sports if you are a highly developed country, e.g. the UK: in the 1990s they were very weak and in 1996 they had a disastrous result in Atlanta. This hurt their pride and they invested a lot in sports + organizing the games in 2012. in London was the height of their glory. It made similar progress in the 21st century: The Netherlands, which now performs on par with Germany: a much larger and equally rich country.

Not sure I would call the UK highly developed …

More likely politicians like to use sports to masquerade all the other (real) problems (NHS, education system, housing problem, stagnating wages).

21 minutes ago, dodge said:

Is someone genuinely asking why Eastern bloc countries fell off in terms of sporting results after the arrival of democracy? 
 

East Germany only competed in 5 Olympics in rowing, but they won 48 medals, including 33 gold. They were only overtaken by the US in 2016 in the all time medal list (and they’re still ahead of the rest)

 

In Athletics, there’s still several European records that exist since the 80s with East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria and the USSR all involved. 
 

This isn’t a slight on the fine people from Eastern Europe on here and the current athletes doing their best.

 

But the answer to why they were so strong in the 1980s is doping. No one disputes this. 

Obviously that is nonsense. Everyone at the top dopes (at least in somewhat relevant sports), Eastern Europeans just doped more ruthlessly. Whenever there is money involved, there is cheating. Makes no sense to assume that someone who isn’t doping can win gold, when the huge majority of people live in countries where doping pays off most of the time. Why should someone in Africa/Russia/China/India not dope, when they can become „rich“ by doing it and don’t really face much consequences even if they get caught? In order to outperform the most talented, doped athletes from those nations, you have to dope as well. There is nothing to suggest that people from rich nations are genetically superior and therefore don’t have to dope to beat the doped athletes from all those other nations (that represent at least 80 % of the global population/talent pool). 
 

Anyone who disagrees has to defend one of the following two lines of reasoning and in my opinion both don’t really make sense:

a) People in rich nations are somehow special and therefore don’t have to dope to dominate the most talented, doped up athletes from the rest of the world (that makes up at least 80 % of the talent pool)

b) There is no widespread doping in poorer nations (despite the evidence from countries like Ethiopia, Kenya, Russia or China saying otherwise)

4 hours ago, dullard said:

She was all over the lane even hitting the lane rope. If she can tidy that up indoors at trials she's gong 57 something for sure.

 

It was another great session but the men's 200 free was a bit of a fizzer.

 

 

Did she say that she will swim it at trials?

Absolutely don’t see her swimming it at the Olympics.

16 hours ago, Topicmaster1010 said:

1.  United States: 101 (53 M + 48 W)

2.  Japan: 48 (28 M + 20 W)

3.  Australia: 44 (20 M + 24 W)

4.  Great Britain: 35 (21 M + 14 W)

5.  Italy: 32 (21 M + 11 W)

6.  China: 31 (12 M + 19 W)

7.  France: 25 (15 M + 10 W)

8.  Hungary: 20 (12 M + 8 W)

9.  Canada: 19 (4 M + 15 W)

10.  Germany: 13 (9 M + 4 W)

11.  Netherlands: 13 (6 M + 7 W)

12.  South Korea: 10 (8 M + 2 W)

13.  Poland: 9 (4 M + 5 W)

14.  Brazil: 8 (5 M + 3 W),  South Africa: 8 (3 M + 5 W),  Spain: 8 (5 M + 3 W),  New Zealand: 8 (5 M + 3 W)

15.  Greece: 7 (6 M + 1 W),  Sweden: 7 (3 M + 4 W)

16.  Israel: 6 (5 M + 1 W)

17.  Lithuania: 4 (2 M + 2 W),  Portugal: 4 (3 M + 1 W),  Switzerland: 4 (4 M),  Ukraine: 4 (4 M)

18.  Austria: 3 (3 M),  Belarus: 3 (1 M + 2 W),  Belgium: 3 (1 M + 2 W),  Bulgaria: 3 (2 M + 1 W),  Denmark: 3 (3 W),  Hong Kong: 3 (1 M + 2 W),  Ireland: 3 (1 M + 2 W),  Norway: 3 (3 M),  Turkey: 3 (3 M)

19.  Croatia: 2 (2 M),  Czech Republic: 2 (1 M + 1 W),  Estonia: 2 (1 M + 1 W),  Mexico: 2 (2 M),  Romania: 2 (2 M),  Singapore: 2 (1 M + 1 W),  Tunisia: 2 (2 M)

20.  Argentina: 1 (1 W),  Aruba: 1 (1 M),  Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1 (1 W),  Cayman Islands: 1 (1 M),  Egypt: 1 (1 W),  Finland: 1 (1 M),  Iceland: 1 (1 M),  Kyrgyzstan: 1 (1 M),  Serbia: 1 (1 M),  Slovenia: 1 (1 W),  Taiwan: 1 (1 M),  Trinidad and Tobago: 1 (1 M),  Venezuela: 1 (1 M),  Vietnam: 1 (1 M)

 

As of April 15th. Keep in mind that  Italy,  Japan,  South Korea,  Great Britain,  South Africa,  Hungary,  New Zealand, and  Denmark have all had their Olympic Trials/National Championships already so their numbers could be inflated. I'll post this again after the qualification period is over.

1) What starting date did you use? Do you only look at 2024 results or all results since the beginning of the qualifying period?

2) Many nations haven’t had their trials yet, so we will probably see some changes. I would be shocked if Australia would have less athletes with the A standard than Japan.

17 hours ago, bestmen said:

 Jessica Guo Zi Jia

 Julia Yin

 Xu Jia Bao

 Zhang Junjia

 Jaelyn Liu

 Leehi

 

is the flag correct ?  Pretty confusing 

It is the same when you look at the results of the International Mathematical Olympiad.

Based on the names you wouldn’t be able to tell whether a team is from the U.S., Canada or China.

2 hours ago, Agger said:

Can but Sweden and Spain (as the most likely top 2) will be favourites in their quarters.

Don’t see how Hungary wouldn’t be huge underdogs against Sweden. Croatia, Spain and Germany should also be clearly favored over them.

Early predictions for quarterfinals:

Sweden - Egypt

Croatia - Norway

Spain - Denmark

Germany - France

3 hours ago, Josh said:

Masse: Not right now, no, but her early season times are very promising (58.93/58:80 in the 100m backstroke, along with 27.23 in the 50m backstroke and 2:08.44 in the 200m backstroke) for someone who usually only swims at her best during the big meets. Wouldn’t be surprised to see her put up a 58 low (or 57 low) at Trials/the Olympics after struggling with her form in the last couple of years. 
 

Women’s 4x100m Freestyle Relay: True, but they’re in contention. Let’s see what happens at the Canadian Olympic Trials though. 
 

Women’s 4x100m Medley Relay: United States is the favourite, but please explain to me how Australia is a lock for gold. Unless they find a breaststroker between now and Paris, they might even come under pressure for silver by Canada (quite unlikely, but it’s possible if Angus/LePage/Branton are in 1:05 low form and McKeown is on the breaststroke leg splitting 1:07). We have improved on our breaststroke leg, and Taylor Ruck has had a career resurgence which gives us a good freestyle leg. That along with a good butterfly leg (Maggie MacNeil) and a good backstroke leg (Masse) puts us above China IMO. All legs are close except backstroke (I’d say breaststroke and maybe freestyle have the advantage for China right now), which should separate the two.

I said that Australia and the U.S. are a lock for gold and silver (not in that order). USA is the favorite for gold. 
 

1) Australia is clearly faster than Canada (combined almost 2 seconds) on backstroke and freestyle, about equal on butterfly and at most a second behind on breaststroke.

2) Please look up the Chinese breaststroke leg …

China is about equal on butterfly, clearly faster on breaststroke, about equal on freestyle and maybe (half) a second slower on backstroke. Right now there is absolutely no basis to say that the breaststroke leg is close. At the moment it looks like a coin toss. Canada is definitely much closer to China than to Australia.

13 hours ago, Biathlonfan said:

ok and ? Schult threw in a tornado.

How does that make it any better? Why not throw from the top of the Himalaya or in a wind canal?

Realistically you have to subtract 5 or 6 meters. He is still one of the favorites for the Olympics, but nothing more.

17 hours ago, Cinnamon Bun said:

Despite getting thrashed in all 3 of our games, I'm quite pleased with our performance this week. We got into double figures against Hungary and Japan and created some good opportunities for ourselves that we unfortunately couldn't convert, which is more than I expected us to do. This is a sport that needs a lot of development in our country, and this is certainly a start to seeing us become competitive whilst trying to qualify for major championships. Just like with our Water Polo teams, this could be the boost we need to go on and qualify for Brisbane and 2036 - which should be our target off the back of this. 

It is much easier to qualify in handball, but I feel that concentrating on qualifying in basketball would be a much more „natural“ choice for GB. Basketball should be a much better match.

16 hours ago, CCB said:

Pot 1:  

Pot 2:  

Pot 3:  

Pot 4:  

Pot 5:  

Pot 6:  

 

What a weird pots ... why Norway and France not in the same pot? Clearly the two best teams in the world.

Germany has to hope to get Hungary and Slovenia. If everything works out perfectly, Germany might be able to finish 4th.

9 hours ago, Josh said:

Approaching 100 days to go, my predictions for
Day 1

20:55: Swimming - Women’s 400m Freestyle Final - Summer McIntosh (Silver)

21:37: Swimming - Women’s 4x100m Freestyle Relay Final - (Bronze)

 

Day 2

20:45: Swimming - Women’s 100m Butterfly Final - Maggie MacNeil (Silver)

 

Day 3

17:18-17:38: Judo - Women’s 57kg - Christa Deguchi (Gold)

20:30: Swimming - Women’s 400m Individual Medley - Summer McIntosh (Gold)

 

Bronze in the women’s 200m freestyle if she chooses to do the double. She’ll have almost an hour and a half between both so it seems doable (but she’s also probably going to be swimming a rigorous schedule so maybe she’ll skip it)

 

Day 4

17:18-17:38: Judo - Men’s 81kg - Francois Gauthier-Drapeau (Bronze)

17:49-18:09: Judo - Women’s 63kg - Catherine Beauchemin Pinard (Silver)

20:57: Swimming - Women’s 100m Backstroke - Kylie Masse (Bronze)

 

Day 5

20:36: Swimming - Men’s 200m Butterfly Final - Illya Kharun (Silver, behind Milak)

 

Day 6

20:30: Swimming - Women’s 200m Butterfly Final - Summer McIntosh (Gold)

 

Day 8

15:30: Artistic Gymnastics - Men’s Floor - Felix Dolci (Bronze)

20:30: Swimming - Men’s 100m Butterfly Final - Josh Liendo (Bronze)

20:59: Swimming - Women’s 200m Individual Medley - Summer McIntosh (Gold)

21:45: Athletics - Men’s Decathlon - Pierce LePage (Gold)

 

Day 9

19:35: Swimming - Women’s 4x100m Medley Relay Final (Bronze)

20:30: Athletics - Men’s Hammer Throw Final - Ethan Katzberg (Silver)

 

Day 10

21:00/22:05: 3x3 Basketball - Women’s Tournament Medal Matches (Gold)

 

Day 11

20:00: Athletics - Women’s Hammer Throw Final - Camryn Rogers (Bronze)

 

Day 12

20:30: Athletics - Men’s 200m Final - Andre DeGrasse (Silver)

 

Day 13

15:00: Weightlifting - Women’s 59kg - Maude Charron (Bronze)

19:27: Track Cycling - Men’s Omnium - Dylan Bibic (Silver)

19:40: Athletics - Women’s Shot Put Final - Sarah Mitton (Bronze)

19:45: Athletics - Men’s 4x100m Relay Final - Canada (Bronze)

21:00: Beach Volleyball - Women’s Bronze Medal Match - Melissa Humana-Parades/Brandie Wilkerson (Bronze)

21:07: Taekwondo - Women’s 57kg Bronze Medal Match - Skylar Park (Bronze)

 

Day 14

11:00: Basketball - Men’s Bronze Medal Game - Canada (Bronze)

13:50: Canoe Sprint - Women’s C1-200m - Katie Vincent (Bronze)

19:25: Athletics - Men’s 800m Final - Marco Arop (Gold)

21:23: Breaking - B-Boys - Phil Wizard (Gold)

22:34: Boxing - Women’s 75kg Gold Medal Bout - Tammara Thibeault (Gold)

 

 

Left off some other medal chances, think at least one other name/team that I haven’t mentioned will make the podium. Still very optimistic with this prediction considering our best ever result is 24 medals at Tokyo (I picked 30 events for Canada to win medals in) but we have a talent in McIntosh now. 

10 medals in swimming?

Masse: She isn’t a medal favorite (behind Smith, McKeown and the 2nd American), but we will see.

Women‘s 400 free relay: They aren’t a medal favorite (behind Australia, USA and China), but we will see.

Kharun: I see at least Milak, Marchand and Honda ahead of him, but he might end up on the podium.

Liendo: He could win gold or end up without a medal. Dressel, Milak, Ponti, Grousset and Temple are all at least as

likely as him to win a medal.

Women‘s medley relay: Australia and the U.S. are pretty much a lock for gold and silver. Canada should battle with China for bronze.

4 medals (Women‘s 400 free, women’s 100/200 fly and women’s 400 IM) should be the minimum. 7 or 8 medals seem like a realistic goal.

14 hours ago, copravolley said:

I think that: Italy, The Netherlands and Germany will be close to each other on medal table, just like in Tokio 2021. On the other hand, France will get a much better result because of being the host team.

1) Depends on how you sort the medal table.

2) Depends on what you mean with „close“.

14 hours ago, Jinzha said:

With just over 100 days to go I decided to do another medal prediction, but this time on a day to day basis. 

 

Day 1 Saturday 27 July (0-1 medals)

Road cycling: Ellen van Dijk (W time trial)

 

Day 2 Sunday 28 July (0-2 medals)

Mountain bike: Puck Pieterse (W cross country)

Swimming: Arno Kamminga or Caspar Corbeau (M 100m breast)

 

Day 3 Monday 29 July (0-1 medals)

Swimming: Tes Schouten (W 100m breast)

 

Day 4 Tuesday 30 July (0-1 medals)

Judo: Joanne van Lieshout (W -63kg)

 

Day 5 Wednesday 31 July (3-5 medals)

Judo: Sanne van Dijke (W -70kg)

Rowing: M4x and W4x

Swimming: Marrit Steenbergen (W 100m free) and Caspar Corbeau (M 200m breast)

 

Day 6 Thursday 1 August (4-7 medals)

Judo: Michael Korrel (M -100kg) and Guusje Steenhuis (W -78kg)

Rowing: M2x and W4-

Sailing: Duetz/Van Aanholt (W skiff) and Van de Werken/Lambriex (M skiff)

Swimming: Tes Schouten (W 200m breast)

 

Day 7 Friday 2 August (2-5 medals)

Archery: Mixed team

BMX racing: Niek Kimmann or Laura Smulders

Judo: Marit Kamps (W +78kg)

Rowing: W2-

Sailing: Luc van Opzeeland (M IQFoil)

 

Day 8 Saturday 3 August (3-5 medals)

Athletics: Mixed 4x400m relay

Road cycling: Mathieu van der Poel (M road race)

Rowing: W1x, M1x and M8-

 

Day 9 Sunday 4 August (0-2 medals)

Equestrian: Dinja van Liere (dressage)

Road cycling: Lorena Wiebes or Demi Vollering (W road race)

 

Day 10 Monday 5 August (0-1 medals)

Athletics: Sifan Hassan (W 5000m?)

 

Day 11 Tuesday 6 August (1-2 medals)

Sailing: Marit Bouwmeester (W dinghy)

Track Cycling: M team sprint

 

Day 12 Wednesday 7 August (0-1 medals)

Sailing: Laila van der Meer / Bjarne Bouwer (mixed multihull)

 

Day 13 Thursday 8 August (2-4 medals)

Athletics: Femke Bol (W 400mH)

Hockey: Men’s team

Swimming: Sharon van Rouwendaal (W 10 km open water)

Track cycling: Hetty van der Wouw (W Keirin)

 

Day 14 Friday 9 August (2-4 medals)

Athletics: Lieke Klaver (W 400m)

Breaking: India Sardjoe (W breaking)

Hockey: Women’s team

Track Cycling: Harrie Lavreysen (M sprint)

 

Day 15 Saturday 10 August (1-3 medals)

Athletics: Women’s 4x400m relay and Abdi Nageeye (M marathon)

Water polo: Women’s team

 

Day 16 Sunday 11 August (1-2 medals)

Athletics: Sifan Hassan (W marathon??)

Track Cycling: Harrie Lavreysen (M keirin)

 

Any day (0-2 medals)

Surprise medals: preferrably Niels Laros (M 1500m) and W handball or volleyball team (what can I say, the more surprising the better)

 

Total prediction (19-47 medals)

+/- 10 golds

+/- 11 silvers

+/- 12 bronze

 

I feel like the day-by-day version made the numbers too optimistic. Some names I'm thinking more like 'one out of these 4 judoka's will probably win a medal', but it shows as a medal chances on 4 days, instead of just 1 expected medal.

Overall I'm a bit more optimistic than the 25 medals I predicted last time, I'll say 30 medals this time!

2 medals for Corbeau seems borderline insane. I think 2 medals in the 4 breaststroke events seems realistic. The only medal favorite is Schouten in the 200 breast and even she could very well end up without a medal (Chikunova (if she competes after all), Schoenmaker, Douglass).

On 4/8/2024 at 7:53 PM, Rafa Maciel said:

With the  Swimming Champs done, I've got time to look at some of the reporting ahead of the Olympics as media outlets begin to consider medal prospects.

 

These are the predicted athletics medalists (track only) from Pulse Sports - a Kenyan media outlet. Please don't shoot the messenger - this isn't an endorsement of their prediction. I share it purely for information and discussion.

 

Men's 100m:

 Noah Lyles

 Ferdinand Omanyala

 Letsile Tebogo

 

Men's 200m:

 Noah Lyles

 Letsile Tebogo

 Zharnel Hughes

 

Men's 400m:

 Steven Gardiner

 Antonio Watson

 Muzala Samukonga

 

Men's 800m:

 Emmanuel Wanyonyi

 Marco Arop

 Emmanuel Korir

 

Men's 1500m:

 Jakob Ingebrigtsen

 Josh Kerr

 Yared Nuguse

 

Men's 5000m:

 Jakob Ingebrigtsen

 Jacob Krop

 Yomif Kejelcha

 

Men's 10000m:

 Joshua Cheptegei

 Jacob Kiplimo

 Daniel Simiu

 

Men's 3000m Steeple:

 Soufiane El Bakkali

 Lamecha Girma

 Simon Koech

 

Men's 110m Hurdles:

 Grant Holloway

 Hansle Parchment

 Rasheed Broadbell

 

Men's 400m Hurdles:

 Karsten Warholm

 Rai Benjamin

 Alison Dos Santos

 

Men's Marathon:

 Benson Kipruto

 Sisay Lemma

 Eliud Kipchoge

 

 

 

Women's 100m:

 Sha'Carri Richardson

 Elaine Thompson-Herah

 Shelly-Anne Fraser-Pryce

 

Women's 200m:

 Shericka Jackson

 Elaine Thompson-Herah

 Gabby Thomas

 

Women's 400m:

 Shaunae Miller-Uibo

 Marileidy Paulino

 Salwa Eid Naser

 

Women's 800m:

 Mary Moraa

 Aithing Mu

 Keely Hodgkinson

 

Women's 1500m:

 Faith Kipyegon

 

 

 

Women's 5000m:

 Faith Kipyegon

 Beatrice Chebet

 Letesenbet Gidey

 

Women's 10000m:

 Gudaf Tsegay

 Letesenbet Gidey

 Sifan Hassan

 

Women's 3000m Steeple:

 Beatrice Chepkoech

 Winifred Yavi

 Faith Cherotich

 

Men's 110m Hurdles:

 Tobi Amusan

 Deveyne Charlton

 Cyrena Samba-Mayela

 

Men's 400m Hurdles:

 Femke Bol

 Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone

 Rushell Clayton

 

Women's Marathon:

 Tigst Assefa

 Peres Jepchirchir

 Amane Beriso

1) You wrote men‘s 100/400 m hurdles when it should be women‘s 100/400 m hurdles.

2) What happened with the women’s 1500 m prediction?

3) I think that Hassan will win more than one medal.

4) Not sure about Omanyala/Hughes/Samukonga/Eid Naser/Samba-Mayela winning a medal.

Would be interesting to have a ranking of nations with the most athletes under the A standard. I was quite surprised to see that Japan has clearly more athletes under the A standard than GB.

Obviously lightweight categories are completely retarded. 
1) Height is an advantage in many sports. Should we also have lightweight basketball?

2) „Smaller nations“ have advantages in other sports (gymnastics, table tennis, diving, figure skating), should we also introduce heavyweight categories there?

3) There are way too many events in rowing anyways. If IOC wants to reduce the number of participants, they should have 3 events at most per gender. Rowing is very unpopular and barely anyone cares to watch, so it make the most sense to save costs by reducing the number of athletes in super fringe sports.

In general: More nations are able to win medals -> Bigger viewership

=> How do you (as federation/IOC) make the sport more accessible and how do you make the races less predictable?

2 hours ago, bestmen said:

But your momy USA doesn't agree with you 

 

Biden says Netanyahu's approach to war in Gaza is a 'mistake'

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/biden-says-netanyahus-approach-war-gaza-is-mistake-2024-04-10/

 

 

Where did he say that Netanyahu and the Hamas grandpa are the same? Your source is obviously completely irrelevant to this discussion. In addition to that I despise senile Biden and I am certainly not a fan of the U.S. (completely degenerated neo-capitalistic shithole).

18 hours ago, mrv86 said:

In truth, and I support Palestinian people, this guy is like any other phony dictator. 
 

he convinces ignorant people to attack Israel, knowing that Netanyahu will retaliate with has no other words but genocide, while he has luxuries in Doha.

 

As we say in Spanish, you have to put the point over the i.

To call it a genocide is your opinion, but obviously a very uneducated opinion. The Palestinian population size has exploded over the last couple of decades, but somehow that all happened during a genocide …

Israel could easily kill most of the Palestinians in Gaza if they wanted to.

On 4/8/2024 at 1:28 PM, thepharoah said:

Nicaragua to ICJ:

 

End Germany’s support of Israeli ‘genocide’ in Gaza

Nicaragua tells UN top court that Germany is ‘pathetic’ to supply aid to Palestinians while providing arms to Israel.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/8/icj-to-hear-nicaragua-case-against-germany-for-facilitating-gaza-genocide

Nicaragua is just a Russian puppet, pretty pathetic attempt. I guess a shithole country like Nicaragua has no other options.

On 4/3/2024 at 1:07 PM, bestmen said:

Sanchez says Spain will recognise Palestinian statehood by July

 

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1825333&ved=2ahUKEwjIqpnz8qWFAxXfVKQEHYJ4Dg4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw38Mv3OSWb_e-l_CsmB5W_P

Did Israel already recognize Catalonia as an independent country?

4 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Haniyeh is not leading resistance, he is doing the exact same thing as Netanyahu: leading criminals. He should end up with the same fate as Netanyahu, whatever it may be.

That is a disgusting thing to say (that Netanyahu is the same, leading criminals).