Vic Liu

Chinese Olympic trials begins tomorrow. The rules is to choose the any best result of 3 events to compare:

1: 2023 WCH individual event finals and meeting OG standard A

2: 2024 WCH individual event finals and meeting OG standard A

3: 2024 trials individual event finals and meeting OG standard A

So based on the past 2023 and 2024 WCH, following swimmers already have eligible results and green parts are almost safe enough to guarantee the tickets before the trials. For relay swimmers, mainly considering trials results.

With defending OG champion  Lee/Wang defeated by  pair,  Liu/Ou secured the OG quota and making  with full quotas in Paris. 

Chinese Team:

Men's single: Shi Yuqi, Li Shifeng

Women's single: Chen Yufei, He Bingjiao or Han Yue

Men's double: Liang Weikeng/Wang Chang, Liu Yuchen/Ou Xuanyi

Women's double: Chen Qingchen/Jia Yifan, Liu Shengshu/Tan Ning

Mixed double: Zheng Siwei/Huang Yaqiong, Feng Yanzhe/Huang Dongping

37 minutes ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

Provided Li wins tomorrow, who would be your team? Would the records be considered as 49 is the only weight where North Korean is the number 1, rest all have Chinese number 1 in the world.

Since I am not aware how serious injured of each athlete and if they will recover before OG, my choice may differ from the team. But based on the result of the trials, I would pick 49 59 and 81+.

1 hour ago, phelps said:

with no , I guess the -49kg class is a safe gold, I wouldn't have many doubts (given that -59kg and +81kg are a lock)

I think so too. 49kg 59kg and 81kg+ would be safe choice now.

1 hour ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

Is Liang Xiaomei not going to Olympics for sure? Is it a very serious injury?

We know she is injured before the match but not sure how serious is. Now it seems she could hardly recover in 3 months. Tough choice for the team now.

12 minutes ago, gucardn said:

And for women's team?  I ask especially because for us Brazilians, the 71kg athlete not going opens up an Olympic quota for us!

 

Not sure about Women's team because 81kg and 89kg+ are not competed yet. If China win both golds of 81kg and 89kg+, then China will select 59kg, 81kg and 81kg+. But it's just "if", we have to wait the results.

My personal guess Chinese OG men's team: 61kg Li Fabin, 73kg Shi Zhiyong, 102kg Liu Huanhua. There is no too much dispute. The only thing uncertain is the back and shoulder injury status of 73kg Shi Zhiyong and 89kg Li Dayin. If no big progress made before the register deadline, Shi should be selected.

3 minutes ago, MHSN said:

that was crazy, Karlos Nasar could easy break the total WR but he wanted to break everything  tried 224 to break both CJ and total WR and missed it by the narrowest possible margin. 

 

he broke the snatch WR but the Colombian former doper Yeison Lopez broke it again one minute later.

 

Nasar is easily capable of 400 or 405. if I was China I wouldn't pick this weight because even the silver medal is hard to win. but it's also funny if World #1 doesn't go to the Olympics. but that happens in women's weightlifting anyway 

I wouldn't pick this weight either. Li Dayin always lose critical events for many times and this time as usual. And he has 3 main rivals in this weight, ie the other 3 top4 in this world cup. So even if one or two of them underperform in OG, he may still lose the game. But 73kg Shi Zhiyong clearly just has one major rival, the young man. So if he underperform in OG, the 2-time OG defending champion would easily grasp the chance.

What a disaster for   Li Dayin and Tian Tao. Can't imagine what they have prepared for in last couple of months.

6 minutes ago, silentAssassin said:

Any idea when the final selection will be done? Any date?

China likes announcing at the last moment in order to allow for unforeseen circumstances like sudden injury.

8 minutes ago, silentAssassin said:

Is this the documented policy of chinese weightlifting federation? Or just your personal view? 

My personal view. Document just said it's the most important trials for OG without mentioning any quantitive criteria.

7 minutes ago, phelps said:

so, this result leaves the door open for the  girls @ 59kg and @ 71kg, should they win gold here in  

 

however, I don't understand why they take  as a comparison, when they already know the Koreans won't be in Paris...I mean, without , the Gold medal is pretty safe in this class, more than in the -59kg and the -71kg, it doesn't matter if they win or not Gold here @Vic Liu

 

For two reasons: 1, For internal fairness. Imagine you are the champion of 59kg left unselected, but your teammate 49kg is merely a silver medalist but selected. You will definitely feel unfair and it’s not good for the team atmosphere. Real champions should always prioritize the selection regardless of rivals’ attendance.

2, You just never know if North Korea will successfully lobby IOC or IWF for a wild card, maybe only one category per gender. I personally think it possible. No one can guarantee anything until the OG begins.

This compulsory world cup will be served as Chinese internal trials. There is no clear quantitive method for trials but I personally sum up as follows. For men's side, whichever 3 categories winning the golds will go to OG, if winning 4 golds or less than 3 golds then comparing the winning/losing margin. For women's side, 81kg and 81kg+ will be (most probably) selected if winning the golds. For 49kg, 59kg and 71kg whichever winning over North Korea will be selected. If no categories or more than 2 categories winning over North Korea, then comparing the winning/losing margin.

2024 OG RANKING LIST_Final.pdf

FIG announced the quotas via world cup ranking. the link is under "show files" on the Olympic event page of FIG.

https://www.gymnastics.sport/site/events/detail.php?id=17041#loaded

1 hour ago, Josh said:

China doesn’t have an Olympic Trials for diving? That’s surprising to me. 

There are 3 trials and it all finished. Doha WCH was the last stage and the other two were in 2023. So the quota I mentioned above is the only uncertain one. All other athletes are quite consistent in all 3 stages.

3 minutes ago, Adriano said:

Do you know more about China selection?

Basically same as the squad in Doha WCH, maybe only one spot uncertain, the second quota of men's 10m platform. It will be given to OG defending champion Cao Yuan who is absent on World Cup or Lian Junjie who has to prove himself on World Cup final.

1 minute ago, Rafa Maciel said:

 

 

I'm not sure whether we will see Jiuyuan Zheng on the Chinese squad when we get to Paris - that's the second world cup event where he has failed to podium. 

Most probably he will not get to paris. The reason why he attend world cup is merely OG defending champion Xie Siyi is not eligible to compete due to the absence of last season. The selection of China squad is mostly finished. Wang Zongyuan and Xie siyi will compete individual event. Wang and Long will compete synchro.

  won the women's epee quota on last home stage

Ok I found that the other two are trainers not athletes.

There are 3 80kg+ Chinese athletes on the list, but ultimately only one would be in the draw? @MHSN

 Thailand

Badmixy - DILF

  South Korea

Ive - I Am

Just voted. Sorry for missing the deadline and it makes me feel back to university. I will pick  and  for festival of music.

china reach top16 and got the quota!

If two teams share the same olympic ranking points, how to break the tie?