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  1. To finish this discussion I will summarize the position of the Russian fans from our forums: 1. A few weeks ago we read an interview Rodchenkov, where there were many fantastic words (FSB agents, drugs with alcohol, the hole in the wall, etc.). 2. Assembled a Commission which was to investigate these words. 3. The Commission repeated the Rodchenkov's words, but when McLaren asked about the evidence, he said that "We don't know how it was all done, but we know it could be done". This is ridiculous. This is not the response for which was spent so much money on the investigation.
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  2. And a few more to add (don't know why I'm really into this ): Isabelle Sambou (Wrestling) Source: http://aps.sn/actualites/sports/lutte/article/isabelle-sambou-designee-porte-drapeau-du-senegal-cnoss Gu Bon-gil (Fencing) Source: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2016/07/19/0200000000AEN20160719002400315.html Anuradha Indrajith Cooray (Athletics) Source: http://www.dailynews.lk/?q=2016/07/19/sports/87916 Ian Lariba (Table Tennis) Source: http://www.spin.ph/olympics/news/ian-lariba-philippine-flag-bearer-rio-olympics-201
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  3. politics in sport is a bad think.....why nothing new on great britain's doctor and his doped athlets? why nothing about spain on doctor fuentes time ago?just russia.please I am agree to punish russian federation but I expect more fight to doping also to other countries.I hope russia will react and will investigate on other countries and more shit will come out.
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  4. that's because americans and british are all clean, they are superhumans and are able to beat doped russians. oh, wait that's Rocky. it will be huge win for clean sport when Britney Reese jumps 7,50 in Rio
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  5. Thanks, that's a bit more clear explanation I can understand the Polish anger now...
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  6. I wouldn't exactly call Logutenkova a plain cheater, I'd rather call the Ukrainian federation as cheater. No way that Logutenkova did this all by herself. She was outside of qualification zone coming into the last week of qualifications. She competed at some serious World cup competitions where she was scoring 68%-69%, so not good enough to qualify. One of those competitions was in Neumunster just 2 weeks before deadline. But then her sponsor (VIAN Group) organized two competitions in Lier in the last week of qualification period. In Lier she magically massively improved her scores
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  7. No only maybe in China. 10 hours under water is really very-very hard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0QX-u5XsCA USA training https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqzAizCk0jM Russia training It's very big difference
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  8. Because 1. there were coaches like Tatyana Pokrovskaya and Irina Viner (rhythmiс gymnastics), who created the system of training. from young children to adult teams 2. These sports (and figure skating) are very popular with russian's mothers who give little girls in school sports 3. And the most important! Russian synchronized swimmers and gymnasts train for 8-10 (!!!) hours. Everyday!
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  9. Yeah, I've read that letter. If I'm not mistaken, he didn't get any answer? One more note from Russians. You said about anger of Russian sports fans - yes, many of us have that feeling. In the end it's hard to believe anyone about this deal. Of course, as every person, I wait for positive ending of the story, but things are going worse and worse. I also waited for some actions from WADA to build anti-doping control in Russia by itself(or some documents how it should be done), but there are none of them and it's the worst thing in all the story. It's easy to destroy and hard to
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  10. Oh, IOC decided to cancel presumption of innocence of Russian athletes about doping. So, should athlete by himself go to foreign ADA and tell officers there to take test from him?)) Because it's unusual situation and we need to know how it should work(do they mean all sportspeople from every sport? Should, for exmaple, Russian speedway(or in any other motorsport) team do something in that situation?
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  11. Ok. That's clearer. Preciado is called "second flagbearer" (or junior, if you must) and Chocho is still "first"/senior. He received it because of Chocho's ausence but Chocho should still be flagbearer at the parade of nations. EDIT: Way slower, lol
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  12. In real life I have some connection with Russian national speedway team (Polish guys should know what it is), and even riders write that they are a bit scared how it can influence on them (but to be honest, there is no connection between them and IOC, cause we would never see motorsports in Olympics).
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  13. strange. but well, thanks for the answer and I will cheer for her to do well in both actions then
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  14. she will.....NOC wanted someone who won medal at previous games imo and taekwondo is in 2nd week so Milica can't more people dislike decision than like
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  15. I would add that even in most Russian-hating newspapers there it is everywhere written that number of proofs and facts is close to zero, and the point of discussion shouldn't be "if Russia should be disqualified", but " if that story is true".
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  16. Please, tell us the facts now, we're waiting. Hollywood-style stories are not the facts. We have mentioned earlier strange table with interesting numbers (with no dates or any additional info) What else?
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  17. Boris Kirillov (200m back), Fatima Alkaramova (100m free ) http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:H_0KLOjeph8J:azerisport.com/watersports/20160713235627843.html+&cd=2&hl=ru&ct=clnk&gl=ru
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  18. The majority of Russians would thank IOC for that decision, lol)) Mutko seems to be the worst Russian sports minister ever, even without that doping story.
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  19. Well, we either feel sorry for the dozens/hundreds of clean Russian athletes or we feel sorry for the thousands of clean athletes from everywhere else who will be cheated out of Olympic glory by dirty Russian athletes. If the report is true, then Russia is the one who broke the rules so they should feel the consequences. It's like saying, "Don't put the criminal in jail, it would be unfair to his innocent family!". If Russia wanted to be fair to their clean athletes then they shouldn't have cheated in the first place. I don't think any other country would boycott if Russia is
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  20. Even if we let that all these things COULD happen. It is known that the most problematic sports for doping in Winter Olympics are skiing and biathlon, but Russia had worse(!) results in biathlon than in Vancouver and nearly the same in skiing. A bit "ineffective" strategy for such "powerful doping country" as Russia, isn't it?
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  21. And don't you think, that all that story can be simple fairy tale? Through all the season the same athletes(do we talk about people who take part in not only one competition, right?) did tests in foreign countries in competitions, had top results and weren't caught. I have mentioned earlier that even now we don't have proofs for that "wonderful strategy" of FSB, and also FSB is made at first so clever and so stupid later. Sorry, I can hardly believe it.
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  22. I think that's a mistake on wikipedia, as that weightlifter is listed as Greek on IWF rankings. I guess we'll just have to wait and see when IWF finally decides to publish something.
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  23. What is it "proven". Proved that Isinbayeva, gymnasts, wrestlers and others took dope?! No that's not true. They are clean, as well as other athletes from Russia and deserve to compete at the Olympics
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  24. I always get that response that of course not all British and Americans are clean but there isn't no state sponsored doping. And I'm failing to see ANY of high profile athletes from these countries getting bans. Are they just more sophisticated or there is something else to it?
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  25. Avtandil Tchrikishvili (Judo) Source: http://www.ipress.ge/new/36808-rios-olimpiadis-gakhsnaze-saqartvelos-medroshe-avtandil-chrikishvili-iqneba Updates Lenin Preciado (Judo) Source: http://www.andes.info.ec/es/noticias/judoca-lenin-preciado-sera-abanderado-delegacion-ecuatoriana-participara-olimpiadas-rio (According to the article, Andres Chocho is getting ready for his final training phase in Brazil(?)) >> need Spanish-speaking members to confirm
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  26. India will face Spain in Davis Cup World Group Play-offs
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  27. Oh, more Russian haters in the thread. To be honest - if WADA really wanted to clean sport in Russia, they should do totally different things: 1) Tell EVERY story of these scary anonymous Russian dopers(today we have no new of them) 2)Totally ban RUSADA, make all anti-doping work about Russian athletes outside of Russia and in that time try to make new clean agency inside of it with British, American - anyone who knows what should be done(today we have nearly no kind of this work) It's known that more names - less place for political rumours and discussions. But now we hav
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  28. It's not their mandate to do so, it's WADA's one. Their duty stops within their own boundaries. Besides, seeing - among any other countries - the US and Canada calling for the ban, makes the theory of a political move credible and, in fine, downgrade the argument.
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  29. Rhetoric question. They don't. It's not their business to call for other country to be banned.
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  30. what to say dude. Astonishing help and job you are doing just keep it,
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  31. Santiago Gonzalez and Miguel Angel Reyes-Varela are going to Rio in men's doubles! (source in Spanish) This marks the return of Mexican tennis after a 16 year absence.
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  32. Welcome to Cold War vol 2. In last two years is so IN to be in anti Russian mood. In spor there is acusations for sistematic doping, on Eurovision there is stories about political songs and anti gay laws and so on. And from the other side we have supernatural athlets like Michael Phelps who swim 10 races daily (and won 9), Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, Ian Thorpe suoerman whose father worked for WADA....... Long live politics... I mean clean sport. Hurray
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  33. Skiing and snowboarding are also under one federation, but they are divided. So that doesn't work.
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  34. potato has come from America
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  35. Oh, I've found one more thing. Rodchenkov said that doping was also given to Tretiakov. In the list above there is NO skeleton. Where is the truth, WADA?))
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  36. Do you really believe that if he would have found changed test of someone of top athletes, he wouldn't say about that? If he gave the names privately just to someone, where are the confirmations of it from these "recievers"? There were no words about it.
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  37. That picture can be found in the report. How did they count it? Maybe, we can know just couple of names? When were these tests covered? Just something more than Chivas and FSB; people who did the report make FSB at first so clever to think of all that strategy, and after that so stupid to not to clean out all the possible proofs and let Rodchenkov to go out to the USA(if you didn't know, any person except the highest people in Russia who get the access to all secret deals is not allowed to go out of the country).
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  38. It's interesting that people discuss there only the fact of possible disqualification and don't mention any real facts that were said on the conference. Have you mentioned that there were NO names of athletes? It seems that they are afraid to do this, because sportsmen can reply just after that. Rodchenkov had said some months ago that Legkov was one of the dopers - and what's next? Just days later there were all documents from Alexander that he was(and is) clean. I think it would be easy for not-dopers to proof their innocence, but WADA even doesn't name anybody - that can lead to destruction
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  39. Putin's reaction. He said that Russian officials from WADA report will be suspended until the finish of investigation.
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  40. I don't really believe that every test of Russian athlete from Lahti, Altenberg, Ruhpolding and other places goes straight to the Russian Ministry. If so, I would name Putin the most important politician in the world just that moment - nobody had such a big influence in all the sports history))
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  41. Just business. More scandals, more money for WADA
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  42. Oh, what do we have now again? Usual press conference about doping in Russia with fairy tales about Chivas and FSB with no proofs. Come on, all the athletes with medals in Sochi were tested many times and showed good results through all the season. It was not interesting at all to hear all these things about politics once again.
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  43. and if they are not presented? unpublic legal processes are something out of the modern world actually. sport is for audience and we are to see that everything clear
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  44. If they have all the evidence and all that goes with it, Russia will have a serious problem. They will not participate in the next few Olympics. But still I think that there is good number of totally innocent athletes and they must participate at least as Klishina. One user here said that I will be happy. Not at all. As I know almost all athletes from Belarus and Romanian canoeing team (11) failed at doping test at the same time. So, they are not innocent at all. (I would say the same for all athletes from Serbia that use or have used an illegal substance). discussion
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  45. Of course all American athletes are so clean. USA-CAN-JPN-ESP on the line against the main rival Russia. Who will be next China? I am support clean sport, but for me it is a planned action. Russia should show class and retreat. I do not believe that some other countries like USA also they do not try this.
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  46. no. it is not the same Im not for total ban of Russian athletes at all.
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  47. I understand, but there should be at least something -- someone could allow to publish his words, someone could show his letters with ministry of sport or something. Anyone can make investigations with secret proves, but who can trust it
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  48. Russia is first in the firing line, what about USA? Rio without Russia, will be a big joke. They should start, but should be tested. That's all.
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  49. Sochi samples were not retested as I know
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  50. When they change their name to Russia or Azerbaijan.
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