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Archery Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games

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1 minute ago, Agger said:

 

That is indeed interesting. Could understand it, if they didn't want byes, but considering that they already have such in the team contests that doesn't seem like the reason.

 

even at the World Championship, only top 16 make it to the knockout round (both for men/women team events and mixed team events). apparently there is a rule about not more than 16 teams

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9 minuti fa, Dunadan ha scritto:

Only 16 pairs in the archery mixed team event. 

 

This is idiotic. If I counted correctly, in Rio and London there were respectively 24 and 25 countries with at least one male and one female archer.

The countries that qualify a men's and/or women's team will have the advantage of keeping only the best score, so several nations with only 1 man and 1 woman won't enter an event created for nations with 1 man and 1 woman.  

Well they are granted at least 4 spots, in the case that the same 12 teams obtain both male and female teams qualified. It is not that much, but if number of archers is limited to 64 per gender, there cannot be many more

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so Asian Games in Jakarta will be an Olympic qualifier . that's interesting but most of top Asian nations will probably finish in top 8 at the worlds later in 2019 and will qualify a complete team.

 

so what if Korea wins the gold in Jakarta and later qualify a team ? the spot goes to the next best unqualified nation ? in this case we may see a 5th-6th placer from AG gets the spot. or even lower than that.

 

while Indonesia completely destroyed the Asian Games by even removing some Olympic events :wall::wall:, I wonder if other sports use the AG as Olympic qualifier.

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14 minutes ago, MHSN said:

so Asian Games in Jakarta will be an Olympic qualifier . that's interesting but most of top Asian nations will probably finish in top 8 at the worlds later in 2019 and will qualify a complete team.

 

so what if Korea wins the gold in Jakarta and later qualify a team ? the spot goes to the next best unqualified nation ? in this case we may see a 5th-6th placer from AG gets the spot. or even lower than that.

 

while Indonesia completely destroyed the Asian Games by even removing some Olympic events :wall::wall:, I wonder if other sports use the AG as Olympic qualifier.

 

Only the top 4 athletes will be eligible for the quota places. If you are unable to award someone the place will be reallocated to the Final Individual Qualification Tournament. So basically Asia will lose out.

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1 ora fa, JoshMartini007 ha scritto:

 

Only the top 4 athletes will be eligible for the quota places. If you are unable to award someone the place will be reallocated to the Final Individual Qualification Tournament. So basically Asia will lose out.

 

final individual qualification is going to be outnumbered :lol:

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So... NOC's can get individual quota through mixed tournament in the continental games HOWEVER that doesn't necessarily means that they will participate in the mixed tournament during the olympics?

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18 minuti fa, Maxim Fastovsky ha scritto:

So... NOC's can get individual quota through mixed tournament in the continental games HOWEVER that doesn't necessarily means that they will participate in the mixed tournament during the olympics?

If they get quotas in mixed tournament, they qualify one per gender, so they can compete in mixed team. To qualify for the draw, they must finish in top 16 in Olympic ranking round 

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28 minutes ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

So... NOC's can get individual quota through mixed tournament in the continental games HOWEVER that doesn't necessarily means that they will participate in the mixed tournament during the olympics?

 

More or less, though I guess you can consider the qualification round as part of the mixed team tournament. Overall this was done to make sure at least 16 NOCs have a male and female archer.

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3 ore fa, Dunadan ha scritto:

Only 16 pairs in the archery mixed team event. 

 

This is idiotic. If I counted correctly, in Rio and London there were respectively 24 and 25 countries with at least one male and one female archer.

The countries that qualify a men's and/or women's team will have the advantage of keeping only the best score, so several nations with only 1 man and 1 woman won't enter an event created for nations with 1 man and 1 woman.  

 

well, this is the procedure used in each and every world cup, continental and world champs event...

for the mixed team events, they just add the best man and woman for each Country and make the rankings...the top 16 go through to the elimination round stage...

I don't see anything wrong...

I understand that many of you are used to the Olympic format for team events, where no teams are normally eliminated after the ranking round, but that's the abnormal situation...in any other circumstance, we always have more than 16 teams at the start of any event and only the top 16 going through to the final stages...

 

p.s. that document is written very, very poorly, but it's clear that all the NOCs with at least 1 man and 1 woman qualified to the Games will start also in the Mixed Team event (and they all will start from 0, from the same point...so, there's nothing unfair)

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1 minuto fa, phelps ha scritto:

 

p.s. that document is written very, very poorly

Yeee, I feel less stupid :d

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4 minuti fa, JoshMartini007 ha scritto:

 

More or less, though I guess you can consider the qualification round as part of the mixed team tournament. Overall this was done to make sure at least 16 NOCs have a male and female archer.

 

I agree

however, it wouldn't be a problem to reach that number even without a dedicated qualification pathway, considered the previous Games...

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8 minutes ago, phelps said:

 

I agree

however, it wouldn't be a problem to reach that number even without a dedicated qualification pathway, considered the previous Games...

 

Maybe they wanted participation from all continents though even then it's likely everyone will be in attendance through team and individual qualifiers: Egypt for Africa, Canada/Mexico/United States for Americas, Australia for Oceania and various nations for Asia and Europe.

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