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CWG waste of time, India should withdraw altogether: IOA president

The government has so far resisted the calls from the IOA and NRAI to boycott the Birmingham Games, saying such decisions cannot be taken unilaterally.



Claiming that they are no longer relevant, Indian Olympic Association (IOA) president Narinder Batra has called for the country to withdraw altogether from the Commonwealth Games rather than boycotting a one-off edition. Batra added that India should instead focus on taking part in international events where the level of competition is high to improve its standing at the Olympics.
Batra said he will put up this proposal at the IOA executive board meeting, which is likely to be held next month. If the members approve, the Olympic body will take it up with the government and subsequently the Commonwealth Games Federation (CGF) president, when she visits the country in November.
“These Games have no standard. For me, these are a waste of time and money. We win 70 medals, 100 medals at the Commonwealth Games while at the Olympics, we get stuck at two (medals),” Batra told The Indian Express, referring to India’s tally in Rio. “That means the level of competition isn’t high at CWG. It’s not a ranking tournament either. So why waste time? We should rather go to better competitions and prepare for the Olympics.”

In July, the IOA took an unprecedented step and proposed a complete boycott of the 2022 CWG in Birmingham after the organisers dropped shooting from the programme despite months of lobbying by the International Shooting Sport Federation (ISSF), the National Rifle Association of India (NRAI) as well as former sports minister Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore. CGF president Louise Martin is likely to visit New Delhi on November 14 to meet IOA officials as well as sports minister Kiren Rijiju.

Batra said he wasn’t in favour of boycotting a standalone edition of the Games. “I’m not in favour of the boycott. In sports, you never use the word boycott. My fundamental principle is either we withdraw permanently or go and compete,” Batra said. “We will have an internal discussion in IOA before the meeting (with CGF) on November 14. I’ll put up this suggestion in the IOA meeting and see if there is a consensus. We’ll have political decisions as well.”

The government has so far resisted the calls from the IOA and NRAI to boycott the Birmingham Games, saying such decisions cannot be taken unilaterally. But Batra insisted participating in the CWG does not benefit Indian athletes given the competition level isn’t ‘high enough’. “The entire Middle East does not compete in CWG. The USA doesn’t either. Ultimately, IOA will vote for it. As a sports administrator, it is my duty to make sure India has a strong team for the 2024, 2028, 2032 Olympics. We won’t achieve that by competing at the CWG,” he said.

India have won 101, 64 and 66 medals in the 2010, 2014 and 2018 editions of the CWG respectively. Athletes winning medals at these Games receive hefty prize money, with centre earmarking `30 lakh for gold medalists, `20 lakh for silver winners and `10 lakh for bronze medalists. The state governments offer separate prize money while employers like Railways, oil companies and state police department offer cash incentives and/or promotions to the medal winners.

Batra acknowledged his suggestions may not go down with the athletes. “Athletes may hate me for it because they get prize money for these Games. I will request the government to divide this prize money in different tournaments of better level,,” Batra said. “If it is not a good competition then why should we go?”

The IOA chief added the Commonwealth body has been ‘undermining’ India and the country is not adequately represented in its bodies ‘despite being their largest partners, population wise.’ “Yet, they don’t consider us seriously. There are 13 committees and there isn’t one Indian in them. There is no Indian in the executive board. Why are we in the system? It’s a colonial thing.”


https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cwg-waste-of-time-india-should-withdraw-altogether-ioa-president-6025737/

No Indian in 13 committees.....wow. 
TBF I support the decision to completely come out from the CWG. Except few events the level of competition is so low and except for some bragging rights it's not at all useful.

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10 hours ago, depleter said:

CWG waste of time, India should withdraw altogether: IOA president

 

 


https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cwg-waste-of-time-india-should-withdraw-altogether-ioa-president-6025737/

No Indian in 13 committees.....wow. 
TBF I support the decision to completely come out from the CWG. Except few events the level of competition is so low and except for some bragging rights it's not at all useful.

I disagree, the Commonwealth Games gives visibility to Olympic sports and sportspeople which in India is sadly lacking ..... Some sports like TT recently came to the limelight only because of CWG........ But I agree they don't give any importance to India or  pay attention to the Indian viewpoint


strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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Although the standard of athletes in CWG may not be great but lets admit our standard isn't great either. It gives limelight and media coverage when Olympics is two years away. Still cricket is on top in terms of visibility and it will be even if we play Zimbabwe. Other sports are gaining traction but its still a long way to go. But I am quite happy with the following that ISL and PKL has.

Sport has soft power and it gives boost to our national identity if we do well at Multi-sports events

We are only threatening to pullout of CWG just because it won't have shooting events. Would we do the same if doesn't feature Olympic sports where we aren't good at like Swimming, Basketball or Gymnastics.

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12 hours ago, Siddhartha Talukdar said:

Although the standard of athletes in CWG may not be great but lets admit our standard isn't great either. It gives limelight and media coverage when Olympics is two years away. Still cricket is on top in terms of visibility and it will be even if we play Zimbabwe. Other sports are gaining traction but its still a long way to go. But I am quite happy with the following that ISL and PKL has.

Sport has soft power and it gives boost to our national identity if we do well at Multi-sports events

We are only threatening to pullout of CWG just because it won't have shooting events. Would we do the same if doesn't feature Olympic sports where we aren't good at like Swimming, Basketball or Gymnastics.

Yes, it gives us an opportunity before the Asian games, we can try our 2nd level athletes in some sports like badminton to avoid fatigue in these years. But I agree our current standard is compatible to CWG games only, don't see any reason to not participate, maybe countries like China(though not a CW country) can be selective, not us.

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Looks like we may not even be in one finals this atheletics world Championships..... Sad state of affairs 


strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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2019 FIBA Women's Asia Cup is currently going on in Bangalore and India will face Philippines in 7th-8th decider today at 3.30 pm. The winner of this match will stay in Division A for next tournament in 2021 and also qualify for an Olympic pre-qualifying tournament for Asia/Oceania region

 

Live score at http://www.fiba.basketball/womensasiacup/2019/game/2709/India-Philippines#|tab=boxscore

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just a quick analysis of women from the weightlifting weighht championships analysing the selections of CHN and PRK for the womens weightlifting which they have dominated this time 

 

The Golden collection would be the likely chinese selection - They would definitely want 4 golds from the women 

I would guess they would select 49, 55, 64 , 87 where they have almost a sure GOLD , they also have a 87+ gold but with Tatiana a strong contender who can give Li a run for the money they would prefer the 49 .............

 

The Green shows the PRK selection as per me 

 

76 - they got a gold so sure , 59 they got a silver but with just a Kg difference with the Taipei lifter they have good chance of gold 

in 87 they have absolutely sure of silver with a 17 kg difference with the next and a light chance to fight for the gold  ( a 9 kg difference ) 

in 64 they have sure silver with a huge 11 kg difference with the next lifter ............

 

so Ri will lose out as Mirabai and her are in too close  and less chance of a sure silver and no chance of a gold with a 9 Kg difference 

 

 

 

but you must remember this is based ion Wch , I am not sure if somestrong lifter was not there due to injury and would also depend on the form of lifters thru the year 

 

 

 

so GOOD chance that Korea would not compete in 49 

 

 

 

 

        diff with next non country comp
49 CHN jian G 9      
  PRK Ri B ( silver as two CHN) 3      
               
55 CHN Liao G 12      
               
59 PRK CHOE S 12 1 kg difference for gold 
               
64 CHN DENG G 10      
  PRK Rim S 11 10 kg difference to gold 
               
76 PRK Rim G 5      
  CHN   S 10      
               
               
87 CHN Wang G 9      
  PRK Kim S 17      
               
87+ CHN Li G 14      
  PRK Kim 4th( BRZ as two CHN )         

strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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Kashyap reached SF of Korea unexpectedly good results....... He faces top seed Kento so tough fight in semis 


strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi

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where the hell is sreeshankar ???? .... do not see him in long jump ......


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5 hours ago, nitinsanker said:

just a quick analysis of women from the weightlifting weighht championships analysing the selections of CHN and PRK for the womens weightlifting which they have dominated this time 

 

The Golden collection would be the likely chinese selection - They would definitely want 4 golds from the women 

I would guess they would select 49, 55, 64 , 87 where they have almost a sure GOLD , they also have a 87+ gold but with Tatiana a strong contender who can give Li a run for the money they would prefer the 49 .............

 

The Green shows the PRK selection as per me 

 

76 - they got a gold so sure , 59 they got a silver but with just a Kg difference with the Taipei lifter they have good chance of gold 

in 87 they have absolutely sure of silver with a 17 kg difference with the next and a light chance to fight for the gold  ( a 9 kg difference ) 

in 64 they have sure silver with a huge 11 kg difference with the next lifter ............

 

so Ri will lose out as Mirabai and her are in too close  and less chance of a sure silver and no chance of a gold with a 9 Kg difference 

 

 

 

but you must remember this is based ion Wch , I am not sure if somestrong lifter was not there due to injury and would also depend on the form of lifters thru the year 

 

 

 

so GOOD chance that Korea would not compete in 49 

 

 

 

 

        diff with next non country comp
49 CHN jian G 9      
  PRK Ri B ( silver as two CHN) 3      
               
55 CHN Liao G 12      
               
59 PRK CHOE S 12 1 kg difference for gold 
               
64 CHN DENG G 10      
  PRK Rim S 11 10 kg difference to gold 
               
76 PRK Rim G 5      
  CHN   S 10      
               
               
87 CHN Wang G 9      
  PRK Kim S 17      
               
87+ CHN Li G 14      
  PRK Kim 4th( BRZ as two CHN )         

After the world championships I believe there is a good chance China will  send a lifter in +87kg almost 100 % sure. Li is a junior and commentators said there is no reason on earth to keep Li out of Tokyo, in fact she is the one assured a spot almost surely in China. 

 

Even 55 and  64 China will send. 

But 87kg competition I have watched and North Korea is close to gold. It shows 9kg but it was so damn close as Un missed 159 so closely which would be just 4kg below the Chinese total so I wonder if Wang will be sent there. 

 

North Korean predictions are correct. 

 

 

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