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Badminton 2018 Discussion Thread

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On 7/30/2018 at 11:51, intoronto said:

47 (possibly 2-3) more nations have signed up for the World Junior Badminton Championships team event in November, in Markham, Canada :CAN

 

 

50 confirmed finally, including China which forgot to enter a team lol

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On 16/08/2018 at 09:58, intoronto said:

50 confirmed finally, including China which forgot to enter a team lol

Unfortunately 8 countries withdrew :( Including Russia (only seeded team to), Armenia, Finland and Slovenia among others. The draw for the team event draw is next week!

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BWF Major Events Hosts 2019-2025

 

World Championships
2021: TBA, Spain
2022: Tokyo, Japan
2023: Copenhagen, Denmark
2025: Paris, France

Thomas/Uber Cups
2020: Aarhus, Denmark
2022: Bangkok, Thailand
2024: TBA, China

Sudirman Cup
2021: TBA, China
2023: New Delhi, India
2025: TBA, China

World Junior Championships
2019: Kazan, Russia
2020: Auckland, New Zealand
2021: TBA, China
2022: TBA, Spain
2023: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

World Senior Championships (Veteran)
2021: TBA, Spain
2023: Seoul, South Korea
2025: Auckland, New Zealand

 

One small drama about this bidding: Indonesia and Malaysia refused to bid due to unfairness in revenue sharing by BWF. China also stated its intention to follow suit, but later keep their bids and won the most events lol :p

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A new conflict in Danish badminton.

The conflict is about commercial rights, especially how much of the players's commercial earnings should go to the Danish Badminton Association. 

Badminton Denmark has sent out a press release, which makes it clear that from 1st of December all agreements, both collectively and individually, cease to apply. This means that the players withdraw their intellectual property rights from the cooperation, and that the association terminates all services financed by the Elite Program. Players may, for example, not continue their daily training at the elite center, gain access to Team Denmark facilities and specialists, and be part of the national team. Badminton Denmark will not, as long as there is no new agreement, send trainers and other staff to individual tournaments, arrange travel, apply visa, book hotel, transportation, training times. 

 

 

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On 29/11/2018 at 22:51, wumo26 said:

A new conflict in Danish badminton.

The conflict is about commercial rights, especially how much of the players's commercial earnings should go to the Danish Badminton Association. 

Badminton Denmark has sent out a press release, which makes it clear that from 1st of December all agreements, both collectively and individually, cease to apply. This means that the players withdraw their intellectual property rights from the cooperation, and that the association terminates all services financed by the Elite Program. Players may, for example, not continue their daily training at the elite center, gain access to Team Denmark facilities and specialists, and be part of the national team. Badminton Denmark will not, as long as there is no new agreement, send trainers and other staff to individual tournaments, arrange travel, apply visa, book hotel, transportation, training times. 

 

 

In 2015 there was cookie wars, now this.. Hopefully it is resolved soon, since it will be sad if Denmark sent weak teams to Tokyo Olympics and Thomas/Uber in their home soil.

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Just now, Griff88 said:

In 2015 there was cookie wars, now this.. Hopefully it is resolved soon, since it will be sad if Denmark sent weak teams to Tokyo Olympics and Thomas/Uber in their home soil.

On Wednesday (5th of December), The Board of Badminton Denmark will meet to discuss, if the current chief and management of Badminton Denmark are going to continue negotiating with the players, or they have to be replaced by a new management. 

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Update from the Danish Badminton conflict.

The Board of Badminton Denmark has chosen not to continue negotiating beacuse they can't accept the leader of the Players' Association, Mads Oeland. According to Badminton Denmark the reason why they won't continue to negotiate with Mads Oeland is that they received "threats" about compensation for the missed training sessions in the Elite center. 

 

Other "threats":

- Threats to open negotiations outside of Badminton Denmark with federal sponsors.

- Requirements for continuation of the elite program in unchanged form, even if there is no applicable collective agreement between the parties.

- Badminton Denmark does not want to negotiate a new collective national team agreement with a gun for the forehead.

- The only reaction Badminton Denmark has received from the Players' Association in the last 14 days is two mails on Friday 30 November. The two mails contain, among other things, threats regarding the submission of claims for compensation due to the suspension of the elite program, and threats to open negotiations outside of Badminton Denmark with the federal sponsors, as well as requirements for continuation of the elite program in unchanged form.

 

They say it's not a healthy way of negotiating. Badminton Denmark will try to negiotiate with the players through the Players' Council, instead of the Players' Association.

This is all of course from Badminton Denmark's perspective. We haven't heard anything from Mads Oeland or the players yet. 

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A quick update from the Danish badminton conflict.

The players meet today to discuss yesterday's statement from Badminton Denmark. After today's meeting, the players still fully support Mads Oeland as their negotiator.

 

"I just have to confirm that the positions and the mandate of Mads Oeland are backed 100 percent by our players. He has not done one thing or put a comma for which we do not stand. Whom we choose must stand for our bill. Then you can discuss whether it's a good or bad choice. I do not want to be in the media", says Jan O. Joergensen.

 

"It's a bit childish that they try to ask who negotiates for us. We have tried to accommodate them on some points, and we have had some constructive negotiations so far. We stand together as a group, and we stand for everything Mads Oeland and the Player Association convey further", elaborates Anders Skaarup.

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On 08/12/2018 at 01:39, wumo26 said:

A quick update from the Danish badminton conflict.

The players meet today to discuss yesterday's statement from Badminton Denmark. After today's meeting, the players still fully support Mads Oeland as their negotiator.

 

"I just have to confirm that the positions and the mandate of Mads Oeland are backed 100 percent by our players. He has not done one thing or put a comma for which we do not stand. Whom we choose must stand for our bill. Then you can discuss whether it's a good or bad choice. I do not want to be in the media", says Jan O. Joergensen.

 

"It's a bit childish that they try to ask who negotiates for us. We have tried to accommodate them on some points, and we have had some constructive negotiations so far. We stand together as a group, and we stand for everything Mads Oeland and the Player Association convey further", elaborates Anders Skaarup.

Whew it's getting more and more dramatic.

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