hckošice 13,240 Posted February 24, 2018 #931 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Men´s Mass Start 1. Lee Seung-Hoon 7:43.9760, 2. Bart Swings 7:44.0840, 3. Koen Verweij 7:44.2420 Full Results HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Fastovsky 124 Posted February 24, 2018 #932 Share Posted February 24, 2018 And another failed skating olympics for USA. Short track silver and long track Bronze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,206 Posted February 24, 2018 #933 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) I don't know how much you guys are familiar with Harry Potter books and that so-called sport Quidditch but this mass start events remind me of that why ? because in that game, you have to score goals but they don't really matter , because you have to catch the "Golden Snitch" to win the match, (10 pts for each goal and 150 pts for the snitch) in this mass start. those sprint points are just for fun, after all the top 3 finishers in last lap get the podium Edited February 24, 2018 by MHSN NearPup and dcro 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted February 24, 2018 #934 Share Posted February 24, 2018 hace 28 minutos, MHSN said: I don't know how much you guys are familiar with Harry Potter books and that so-called sport Quidditch but this mass start events remind me of that why ? because in that game, you have to score goals but they don't really matter , because you have to catch the "Golden Snitch" to win the match, (10 pts for each goal and 150 pts for the snitch) in this mass start. those sprint points are just for fun, after all the top 3 finishers in last lap get the podium The Points Race and Madison events in track cycling follow a similar concept with the "lapping the field > sprint points" rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,209 Posted February 24, 2018 #935 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Technically you can catch the golden snitch and still lose if your team is behind by more than 150 points. Mass start does not have that. You might as well make the race into a 2-4 lap race because that's all that matters. NearPup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,206 Posted February 24, 2018 #936 Share Posted February 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, LDOG said: The Points Race and Madison events in track cycling follow a similar concept with the "lapping the field > sprint points" rule. yeah but lapping the whole group is a huge thing in those events and deserves such huge reward. here they give max 5 pts for each sprint, we have 3 sprints, means max 15. yet they award 60-40-20 for top 3 finishers !!! what's the point of those sprints , they don't change the podium at all. they affect only from the 4th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,206 Posted February 25, 2018 #937 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, JoshMartini007 said: Technically you can catch the golden snitch and still lose if your team is behind by more than 150 points. Mass start does not have that. You might as well make the race into a 2-4 lap race because that's all that matters. so you are telling me that Quidditch rules make more sense than ISU Mass start rules ? yeah but was supposed to be a rare thing. scoring 15 goals more than your opponent. You know I had this discussion with my friend (who introduced me to those books and was a die hard fan) million years ago when I was at high school. the whole thing was fiction but the only thing I was questioning was those Quidditch rules. even when I was reading a fiction book I was still a sport fan. NearPup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted February 25, 2018 #938 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The mass start would be greatly improved if they got rid of the points and make it a couple laps longer. It was still an entertaining event though, and goven it ads no athletes... meh, I say keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted February 25, 2018 #939 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, MHSN said: here they give max 5 pts for each sprint, we have 3 sprints, means max 15. yet they award 60-40-20 for top 3 finishers !!! what's the point of those sprints , they don't change the podium at all. they affect only from the 4th place It's almost as if ISU wants to artificially bring more nations into top 10, to make speed skating look better. Top athletes are always going to ignore those intermediate sprints, leaving everything to those who don't think they could win a medal in the final sprint, but would like to achieve a top finish nevertheless... Edited February 25, 2018 by dcro #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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