NearPup 2,156 Posted November 12, 2017 #31 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) This is what the quota situation looks like after the first of four world cups, excluding the time ranking which ads 16 places for the 500m/1000m/1500m, 8 places for the 3000/5000m, 4 places for the 5000/10000m and 2 places for the team pursuit. Max number of athletes is 3 per event for the 500m, 1000m, 1500m and the 3000/5000m while it's 2 per event for the 5000/10000m and the mass start. A country can have up to ten skaters if they qualify in every event, otherwise the limit is eight. Women: 500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m MS TP Max 1 1 2 4 1 1 3 2 3 2 1 2 X 10 2 1 2 5 1 1 2 1 1 2 8 1 1 1 2 1 X 4 2 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 X 10 1 1 2 3 1 1 X 5 1 3 3 3 2 2 X 10 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 X 3 2 2 3 3 2 1 8 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 2 2 8 Men: 500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m MS TP Max 1 1 2 1 1 2 3 2 1 2 1 1 X 10 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 2 1 5 2 1 1 X 4 3 1 2 1 2 8 1 1 3 3 1 2 X 9 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 8 1 1 2 X 4 1 1 3 2 1 1 X 9 1 1 2 1 5 2 3 3 2 1 X 10 1 1 2 3 3 2 8 Edited November 12, 2017 by NearPup intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 12, 2017 #32 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if 'we' end up with nobody in the women's 500m. It's very likely to have the lowest possible position in the Dutch 'selection matrix' since there's almost no medal chance anyway If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 13, 2017 #33 Share Posted November 13, 2017 52 minutes ago, heywoodu said: I wouldn't be surprised if 'we' end up with nobody in the women's 500m. It's very likely to have the lowest possible position in the Dutch 'selection matrix' since there's almost no medal chance anyway The Netherlands will definitively get quotas, probably 3. Keep in mind on top of the 20 athletes qualified by world cup ranking there are 16 spots available for the best performers in Calgary and Salt Lake City via the time ranking, it's not that hard for a good speed skating nation to qualify three spots in the 500/1000/1500. The real question is if the Netherlands will send any 500m specialists or if they will simply use the 500m as a warm-up race. My guess is that they won't be sending any 500m specialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 13, 2017 #34 Share Posted November 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Nate River said: The Netherlands will definitively get quotas, probably 3. Keep in mind on top of the 20 athletes qualified by world cup ranking there are 16 spots available for the best performers in Calgary and Salt Lake City via the time ranking, it's not that hard for a good speed skating nation to qualify three spots in the 500/1000/1500. The real question is if the Netherlands will send any 500m specialists or if they will simply use the 500m as a warm-up race. My guess is that they won't be sending any 500m specialists. That's what I meant It all depends on the 'selection matrix' and who will qualify in which distances. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 19, 2017 #35 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Olympic time ranking for the women's 5000m and the men's 10000m (top 12, two per country): Women: Claudia Pechstein - 6:56.60 Ivanie Blondin - 6:57.34 Esmee Visser - 6:58.04 Martina Sáblíková - 6:59.95 Isabelle Weidemann - 7:00.82 Irene Schouten - 7:01.03 Natalia Voronia - 7:02.40 Anna Yurakova - 7:06.33 Nana Tagaki - 7:08.77 Misaki Oshigiri - 7:09.56 Marina Zueva - 7:11.39 Carlijn Schoutens - 7:11.45 Germany, Canada, the Netherlands and the Czech Republic are now guaranteed at least one quota each in the women's 5000m. Men: Sven Kramer - 12:50.97 Ted-Jan Bloemen - 12:52.64 Davide Ghiotto - 12:53.63 Jouke Hoogeveen - 12:56.62 Alexander Rumyantsev - 12:57.45 Nicola Tumolero - 13:02.11 Sverre Lunde Pedersen - 13:02.42 Patrick Beckert - 13:04.97 Peter Michael - 13:07.20 Moritz Geirseiter - 13:08.87 Seung-Hoon Lee - 13:09.26 Jordan Belchos - 13:10.30 The Netherlands is guaranteed two quotas (the maximum) in the men's 10000m. Canada and Italy are guaranteed at least one quota. Edited November 19, 2017 by NearPup Gianlu33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 19, 2017 #36 Share Posted November 19, 2017 This is what the quota situation looks like after the second of four world cups. I exclude the time ranking for all events except the men's 10000m and the women's 5000m. Max number of athletes is 3 per event for the 500m, 1000m, 1500m and the 3000/5000m while it's 2 per event for the 5000/10000m and the mass start. A country can have up to ten skaters if they qualify in every event, otherwise the limit is eight. Women: 500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m MS TP MAX 1 1 2 4 1 1 1 3 3 2 3 2 2 2 X 10 2 2 1 2 7 1 1 1 1 1 2 7 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 X 4 1 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 X 10 3 1 X 4 1 3 3 3 2 2 X 10 1 1 1 3 1 2 1 X 4 2 3 3 3 2 1 8 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 2 2 1 2 8 Men: 500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m MS TP MAX 1 1 2 1 1 3 2 2 2 2 1 X 10 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 7 3 2 1 X 6 3 1 3 2 8 1 1 3 2 1 1 1 2 X 10 1 1 2 3 3 3 3 2 2 8 1 1 2 X 4 1 1 3 2 1 1 X 9 1 1 1 1 4 2 3 3 1 1 1 X 10 1 1 1 3 3 2 8 Gianlu33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,201 Posted November 21, 2017 #37 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Quota standings: http://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links/isu-files/event-documents/speed-skating-8/2017-18/world-cups-10/series-files-16/documents/15450-qualification-of-noc-event-quota-places/file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,201 Posted November 21, 2017 #38 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Following nations would qualify (29 in total!): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,179 Posted November 21, 2017 #39 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Estonia, Great Britain and Hungary though are literally holding the last available quotas in their disciplines. It will be hard to keep those. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 21, 2017 #40 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Stock reminder that the current time rankings are going to be completly irelevent after the Calgary amd Salt Lake City world cups (except for the 5000m/10000m since the time ranking is based on only one world cup race). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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