DaniSRB 896 Posted September 16, 2019 #161 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, MHSN said: he is in his best shape today. I have to admit that. but still he needs lots of helps from the refs. that's the question only referees can answer btw I just finished watching the match, this is the new dimension of "cheating" that gut wrench clearly and obviously happened after the whistle. that was unbelievable. ref that whistles never gives opinion? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,785 Posted September 16, 2019 #162 Share Posted September 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, MHSN said: he is in his best shape today. I have to admit that. but still he needs lots of helps from the refs. that's the question only referees can answer btw I just finished watching the match, this is the new dimension of "cheating" that gut wrench clearly and obviously happened after the whistle. that was unbelievable. yeah, I called it doubtful only because I couldn't hear the whistle, but the body language of both wrestlers suggested that it was blown well before the gut wrench happened... of course the judges didn't think that and gave up the winning points to the Kazakh guy... by the way, going further...Fumita looked definitely better in the semifinal match than in the previous rounds...maybe he's just the kind of "speculative" wrestler opposed to the spectacular and "entertaining" Ota... p.s. as I predicted, Bjurberg Kessidis made the final... good for Geraei (who are not going to have an easy repechage pathway in any case, as he would probably end up wrestling Cataraga, who's always a dangerous opponent... p.p.s. and Heiki Nabi got lucky once again...Pino Hinds made the final and saved the Estonian's chances, sending him to the repechage round (where probably he'll be the opponent of Ghasemi-Monjezi in the bronze medal match)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,163 Posted September 16, 2019 #163 Share Posted September 16, 2019 well no final for Iran in Greco-Roman. I'm not surprised Geraei was our only realistic chance for the gold but he lost to himself. at least the Swedish guy did him a favor and put him back for the repechage. I didn't expect Nejati and Monjazi to go this far but both of them had their chances in the semifinal .Nejati is very good in standing position, he almost had a takedown in the second period which could win the match for him. but then in par-terre he was terrible and Fumita finished it 9-1. Monjazi was also close to upset the Cuban. he just lost his balance on his own attack and then he had to attack so the Cuban scored few more. even though he was deadly tired. if it wasn't for that mistake, Monjazi could beat him later by a pushout or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,785 Posted September 16, 2019 #164 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Men's Greco-Roman Wrestling, Day #4 Finals -60kg Gold Medal match: Kenichiro Fumita vs Sergey Emelin Bronze Medal match #1: Mirambek Ainagulov vs Lenur Temirov / Erik Torba / Razvan Arnaut Bronze Medal match #2: Ali Reza Nejati vs Victor Ciobanu / Andres Roberto Montano Arroyo / Elmurat Tasmuradov -77kg Gold Medal match: Tamas Lorincz vs Alex Michel Bjurberg Kessidis Bronze Medal match #1: Karapet Chalyan vs Mohammad Geraei / Edgar Babayan / Daniel Cataraga Bronze Medal match #2: Ashkat Dilmukhamedov vs Paulius Galkinas / Volodymyr Yakovliev / Jalgasbay Berdimuratov -130kg Gold Medal match: Riza Kayaalp vs Oscar Pino Hinds Bronze Medal match #1: Amir Ghasemi-Monjezi vs Murat Ramonov / Heiki Nabi / Naveen Bronze Medal match #2: Eduard Popp vs Iakobi Kajaia / Meng Lingzhe / Yasmani Acosta Fernandez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,163 Posted September 16, 2019 #165 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, phelps said: yeah, I called it doubtful only because I couldn't hear the whistle, but the body language of both wrestlers suggested that it was blown well before the gut wrench happened... of course the judges didn't think that and gave up the winning points to the Kazakh guy... by the way, going further...Fumita looked definitely better in the semifinal match than in the previous rounds...maybe he's just the kind of "speculative" wrestler opposed to the spectacular and "entertaining" Ota... p.s. as I predicted, Bjurberg Kessidis made the final... good for Geraei (who are not going to have an easy repechage pathway in any case, as he would probably end up wrestling Cataraga, who's always a dangerous opponent... p.p.s. and Heiki Nabi got lucky once again...Pino Hinds made the final and saved the Estonian's chances, sending him to the repechage round (where probably he'll be the opponent of Ghasemi-Monjezi in the bronze medal match)... It was well after the whistle. if you watch it carefully the center ref raised his hands and then blew the whistle. I can't believe how they still gave 2pts to the Kazakh. I saw so many different ways of cheating but this one was new to me ! Nabi somehow tasted his own medicine , if I'm not wrong he lost to Pino by a late caution. the 3rd caution is always a "dubious call" . but then he got lucky because Pino almost got pinned by the Kyrgyz wrestler. he just survived that to beat him later. and Monjazi was a bit smarter he could beat Pino, he just didn't expect Pino to run out of gas in last 2 minutes so he took an early risk and gave up points. I'm sure Monjazi-Nabi will be battle of cautions. unless Monjazi took some risks again. because Heiki won't do shit. interesting thing. both Lorincz brothers made it to the final in Kudla-style. 1-1 winning the semifinal only because of the last caution. I really hate wining or losing like this. this is pure luck. phelps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,163 Posted September 16, 2019 #166 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Stabler is one of my favorite wrestlers but that call was BS, from 5-1 to 5-5 !!! it was either a takedown or fleeing. you can't give 2+2 for one action ! the Egyptian guy got robbed here . Quasit and thepharoah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepharoah 2,284 Posted September 16, 2019 #167 Share Posted September 16, 2019 really devastating loss for Mohamed Ibrahim , @MHSN DIDN'T HE DESERVE ANOTHER 2 POINTS after that 4 point throw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,163 Posted September 16, 2019 #168 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, thepharoah said: really devastating loss for Mohamed Ibrahim , @MHSN DIDN'T HE DESERVE ANOTHER 2 POINTS after that 4 point throw ? I'm not sure about this one (I will check it later to give you an accurate answer) but that 5-1 to 5-5 call was terrible and unbelievable. I understand why your coaches didn't challenge that. Mohamed was still winning 5-5. this wasn't even a dubious call. pure BS let me tell you what the Iranian commentator said after the match Germany has Antonio Silvestri (UWW refereeing commission president) in UWW but Egypt got nobody. thepharoah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,163 Posted September 16, 2019 #169 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Kudla vs Taheri (Iran) ; nothing is happening, first caution for Kudla. second caution for Iran. 1-1 and no third caution despite the fact our wrestler tried everything Kudla vs Belarus : nothing is happening, first caution for Belarus, second for Kudla. 1-1 in favor of BLR but then they gave a 3rd caution, Kudla won it 2-1 while he did absolutely NOTHING this guy Kudla is winning medals only this way. wrestlers like him and Nabi is the reason why wrestling (specially Greco-Roman) is not that interesting for the TV viewers. that's why I hate him. I understand there are matches nobody can score. and someone has to win. but why this is always Kudla who won these kind of matches ? and since Kudla almost never scores , most of his matches finish like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 654 Posted September 16, 2019 #170 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) I really don't understand Wrestling rules at all. Why was Mohamed still winning at 5:5, if Stäbler was the last one to score? Sorry for the probably dumb Questions. By the way, Stäbler was once at the German version of celebrity Big Brother, and IMO he was completely unlikeable. But I still take the Bronze medals from him and Kudla. Edited September 16, 2019 by EselTheDonkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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