Dennis 600 Posted November 3, 2019 #31 Share Posted November 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said: Just a curiosity, there is no chance to see the Elfstedentocht in the next 10 years? Depends on the weather. Pray for the coldest winter in decades and you might see one. So probably not. Gonna post a full update of the national records in two weeks or so, but I noticed that Luisa Gonzalez Salazar, a 16-year old skater, skated 41,45 in Inzell. Not a poor time at all. Last year October her PB was 43,93. If she keeps developing at this pace, I'm wondering if she could qualify for Beijing 2022? Niginabonu Jamoliddinova also improved her PB on the 500m with 4 seconds in less than a week (1st November 2019: 49,19; 26th October 2019: 53,57, both times skated in Minsk) . Still far from times that could help her come close to Olympic qualification, but she is 15 years old, so enough time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 4, 2019 Author #32 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Gianlu33 said: Just a curiosity, there is no chance to see the Elfstedentocht in the next 10 years? It's always possible I have no doubt there will be another one at some point, saying there will never be is just really unrealistic in my opinion ('never' is a long, long time after all). But as Dennis said, it depends entirely on the weather If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted November 4, 2019 #33 Share Posted November 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, heywoodu said: It's always possible I have no doubt there will be another one at some point, saying there will never be is just really unrealistic in my opinion ('never' is a long, long time after all). But as Dennis said, it depends entirely on the weather Maybe we should just come up with a Canadian or Alaskan version at this point “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,470 Posted November 4, 2019 #34 Share Posted November 4, 2019 @heywoodu and @Dennis what is the ideal time to start looking at weather patterns, etc. to determine the likelihood of the Elfstedentocht taking place? “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 4, 2019 Author #35 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said: @heywoodu and @Dennis what is the ideal time to start looking at weather patterns, etc. to determine the likelihood of the Elfstedentocht taking place? According to optimistic people: as soon as temperatures drop below 0 during the night, even if it's one cold night with -0.5 or something in September. More realistic: probably January or something. Weather patterns don't really mean much more than two weeks in advance or so, even though weather companies like to make you believe otherwise, so there's not specifically an ideal time. January and February are the coldest months though. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 600 Posted November 4, 2019 #36 Share Posted November 4, 2019 team for the first World Cups: Women: Jutta Leerdam (20) - 500m, 1.000m Michelle de Jong (20) - 500m Dione Voskamp (22) - 500m Esmee Visser (23) - 3.000m, 5.000m Sanneke de Neeling (23) - 500m Antoinette de Jong (24) - 1.000m, 1.500m, 3.000m, 5.000m Melissa Wijfje (24) - 1.500m, 3.000m Reina Anema (26) - 1.500m, 3.000m, 5.000m Letitia de Jong (26) - 1.000m Irene Schouten (27) - 5.000m Jorien ter Mors (29) - 500m, 1.000m, 1.500m Carlijn Achtereekte (29) - 3.000m, 5.000m Ireen Wüst (33) - 1.000m, 1.500m Men: Marwin Talsma (21) - 10.000m Marcel Bosker (22) - 1.500m, 5.000m, 10.000m Patrick Roest (23) - 1.500m, 5.000m, 10.000m Dai Dai Ntab (25) - 500m, 1.000m Kai Verbij (25) - 500m, 1.000m Lennart Velema (26) - 500m Thomas Krol (27) - 1.000m, 1.500m Kjeld Nuis (30) - 1.000m, 1.500m Hein Otterspeer (31) - 500m, 1.000m Ronald Mulder (33) - 500m Sven Kramer (33) - 1.500m, 5.000m Jorrit Bergsma (33) - 5.000m, 10.000m Douwe de Vries (37) - 5.000m, 10.000m About half of the men's team is 30 years or older, whereas the women's team is way more balanced age-wise. On the women's side the qualification events were won by Esmee Visser (3.000m and 5.000m) and Jorien ter Mors (500m, 1.000m, and 1.500m). On the men's side, we had four different winners: Dai Dai Ntab (500m), Kai Verbij (1.000m), Kjeld Nuis (1.500m), and Patrick Roest (5.000m and 10.000m). Kai Verbij and Patrick Roest (10.000m) won in impressive track records. Sven Kramer failed to qualify for the 10.000m by 0,72 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 4, 2019 #37 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Sven Kramer not making the team in the 10,000m seems pretty shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 4, 2019 Author #38 Share Posted November 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, NearPup said: Sven Kramer not making the team in the 10,000m seems pretty shocking. Meh, he's not Sven the Almighty he once was Plus the 'theme' of the weekend was Kramer saying he'll skate 'sub maximum', as in, less than he could do. He also doesn't really miss anything because of this, World Cups don't mean a lot and his focus surely isn't on those. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,156 Posted November 4, 2019 #39 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, heywoodu said: Meh, he's not Sven the Almighty he once was Plus the 'theme' of the weekend was Kramer saying he'll skate 'sub maximum', as in, less than he could do. He also doesn't really miss anything because of this, World Cups don't mean a lot and his focus surely isn't on those. Does Kramer compete in any of the domestic marathon style competitions? Or do you think his main focus for this season are worlds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted November 4, 2019 Author #40 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, NearPup said: Does Kramer compete in any of the domestic marathon style competitions? Or do you think his main focus for this season are worlds? Not sure if he ever competed in the national marathon cup (14 races this season, generally at least 100 laps, as a mass start event should have), but it definitely hasn't ever been his goal and it won't be this season. World Cups have never been his focus (or that of any other elite rider), speed skating really is all about titles and medals every winter, much more than other winter sports If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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