phelps 6,785 Posted July 22, 2019 Author #411 Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monzanator said: For me the foil change decision with 6 secs. left was done in bad faith too so there is that. I blame EDF for trying to play the mind games while she's not some scrub who found herself in being afraid of winning situation. And she didn't have some rookie on the other side whatsoever. Just a very weak decision all around when it was Deriglazova in must attack mode. If EDF didn't trust her own skill to survive the final six seconds then she didn't deserve to win it. I'm no rules expert to say whether the second YC was for blocking the target area so I'm not gonna comment on that even if that was the reason behind the penalty. I'm disappointed in EDF's behaviour in general. but that's a perfectly legal move...you just have to ask permission to the ref and once he/she agrees, you can change your weapon as many times as many reserve weapons you have in your bag (because the ref keeps the weapons changed by the fencers and give them back only at the end of the match just to avoid people trying too many of those tricks)... just look at how many times Ivanova changed her foil against Volpi when she was struggling... it's a perfectly normal way to gain a few seconds...sometimes it's a tactical move, sometimes just because you need a deep breathe when you're really tired... you won't find any fencer complaining for that...never...there are a lot of different things that could irritate a fencer (asking always for the video replay even when you don't have anymore, for instance), but not asking to change the weapon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,593 Posted July 22, 2019 #412 Share Posted July 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, phelps said: but that's a perfectly legal move...you just have to ask permission to the ref and once he/she agrees, you can change your weapon as many times as many reserve weapons you have in your bag (because the ref keeps the weapons changed by the fencers and give them back only at the end of the match just to avoid people trying too many of those tricks)... just look at how many times Ivanova changed her foil against Volpi when she was struggling... it's a perfectly normal way to gain a few seconds...sometimes it's a tactical move, sometimes just because you need a deep breathe when you're really tired... you won't find any fencer complaining for that...never...there are a lot of different things that could irritate a fencer (asking always for the video replay even when you don't have anymore, for instance), but not asking to change the weapon... I'm not saying this was illegal. It was somewhat against the spirit of the sport though. When two Olympic champions face off for what is effectively the last hit I expect better than a foil change. Ivanova vs Volpi was a different case, Volpi was the clear favorite so obviously Ivanova couldn't quite match her and the situation got into her head. If Deriglazova got into EDF's head that's a really bad look considering EDF's overall status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 23, 2019 #413 Share Posted July 23, 2019 lol, Pusztai had an amazing last period again (14-5), but it wasn't enough this time. It's a shame that she and Márton can't fence like this in the other periods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,785 Posted July 23, 2019 Author #414 Share Posted July 23, 2019 France, Italy and Russia are already through to the semis in the women's team sabre...USA and KOR are fighting for the last spot in a very tight match (37-36 for KOR right now)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 23, 2019 #415 Share Posted July 23, 2019 This probably means that Hungary and Ukraine will fight for an Olympic spot if Tunisia won't be in the Top16 (or if France, Italy and Russia all end up in the Top4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 23, 2019 #416 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Well, let's hope that Tunisia won't be in the Top16 at the WC events, because it looks like that's our only chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 23, 2019 #417 Share Posted July 23, 2019 LOL we did it again, 37-37 after 14-25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,195 Posted July 23, 2019 #418 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I just don't understand what is happening with this team. They let their opponents to have huge leads, and then they try to come back. This time it was successful after 14-25, like against Poland. HUN-CHN 45-41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,785 Posted July 23, 2019 Author #419 Share Posted July 23, 2019 women's team Sabre, Quarterfinals France b. Ukraine 45-34 South Korea b. United States 45-39 Italy b. Hungary 45-38 Russia b. China 45-28 women's team Sabre, Semifinals France vs South Korea Italy vs Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,785 Posted July 23, 2019 Author #420 Share Posted July 23, 2019 men's team Foil, Quarterfinals United States b. China 45-30 Russia b. South Korea 45-28 France b. Germany 45-24 Italy b. Hong Kong 45-28 men's team Foil, Semifinals United States vs Russia Italy vs France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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