MHSN 3,153 Posted April 27, 2019 #11 Share Posted April 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, gvaisakh said: Never expected our GR wrestlers to reach the final. Great performance by Gurpreet & Sunil. Prem will be fighting for Bronze in 130kg they both did great specially Gurpreet Singh, even though both of them will face world medalists in the final. but to be honest your 130kg guy was one of the worst Indian wrestlers I ever seen. don't count on him at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted April 27, 2019 #12 Share Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) First day Greco medalists 55: 1. Bakhromov 2. Katagiri 3. Sulaimanov & Zhakansha 63: 1. Tuo 2. Tasmuradov 3. Jung & Abdevali 77: 1. Kim 2. Gurpreet 3. Shadukayev & Geraei 87: 1. Nouri 2. Sunil 3. Assakalov & Kustubayev 130: 1. Ghasemi-Monjazi 2. Abdullaev 3. Ramonov & Kuzembayev Tasmuradov's injury in the final was the worst moment of the first day. he couldn't even attend the medal ceremony. that gave China the first Greco medal which was a gold. Iran, Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan won 4 medals each. Iran is leading with 90 points, Uzbekistan with 88 and Kazakhstan 70. Edited April 27, 2019 by MHSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted April 28, 2019 #13 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Greco 2nd day finalists 60 Bakhramov vs Ri 67 Ryu vs Shermakhanbet 72 Geraei vs Zhang 82 Abdevali vs Harpreet 97 Dzhuzupbekov vs Turdiev what a disastrous day. losing is OK but losing to someone 10 times weaker than yourself is unbelievable. and that was the case for Aliyari and Tab (both of his defeats) if Aliyari wrestles this Kyrgyz guy 100 times, he will win 99 of them ! Iran had two eliminated wrestlers today.and with 2 in the final and 3 in bronze medal match, I think Uzbekistan will win the team title. they were also very lucky with the draw in some weights. I think they only have to win 2 of those 5 finals to secure the team title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted April 28, 2019 #14 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2nd day Greco medalists 60 1. Bakhramov 2. Ri 3. Gyanender & Fumita 67: 1. Ryu 2. Shermakhanbet 3. Zhang & Takahashi 72: 1. Geraei 2. Zhang 3. Zhadrayev & Tsarev 82: 1. Abdevali 2. Harpreet 3. Qian & Yerezhepov 97: 1. Dzhuzupbekov 2. Turdiev 3. Aliyari & Xiao Iran somehow miraculously won the team title, after 60kg final winning by Uzbekistan there was only one way for Iran to win the title. winning all 3 medal matches and Uzbekistan losing all 4 remaining medal matches and that's what happened ! winning 4 gold and 3 bronze is an OK result. those 3 who failed to medal also lost very narrowly. interesting point that in both Greco and freestyle Iran had 11 finalists and won all of them ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted April 28, 2019 #15 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Final medal table 1. 11-0-6 2. 5-5-6 3. 4-7-6 4. 2-3-5 5. 2-2-12 6. 2-1-5 7. 2-1-3 8. 1-6-9 9. 1-3-2 10. 0-2-5 11. 0-0-1 You always see those top 10 in all wrestling medal tables in Asia, the only addition was Chinese Taipei winning a bronze in women's wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasit 849 Posted April 28, 2019 #16 Share Posted April 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, MHSN said: Final medal table 1. 11-0-6 2. 5-5-6 3. 4-7-6 4. 2-3-5 5. 2-2-12 6. 2-1-5 7. 2-1-3 8. 1-6-9 9. 1-3-2 10. 0-2-5 11. 0-0-1 You always see those top 10 in all wrestling medal tables in Asia, the only addition was Chinese Taipei winning a bronze in women's wrestling. Well, why didn't you post women's results? Stopped watching sports, there are better things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasit 849 Posted April 28, 2019 #17 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) Women's Freestyle -50kg GOLD: Yuki Irie JPN SILVER: Sun Yanan CHN BRONZE: Valentina Islamova KAZ & Hwang Yong-ok PRK Women's Freestyle -53kg GOLD: Pak Yong-mi PRK SILVER: Mayu Mukaida JPN BRONZE: Aktenge Keunimjaeva UZB & Vinesh Phogat IND Women's Freestyle -55kg GOLD: Xie Mengyu CHN SILVER: Saki Igarashi JPN BRONZE: Marina Sedneva KAZ & Bolormaa Dulguun MGL Women's Freestyle -57kg GOLD: Rong Ningning CHN SILVER: Jong Myong-suk PRK BRONZE: Kaori Icho JPN & Sukhee Tserenchimed MGL Women's Freestyle -59kg GOLD: Yuzuka Inagaki JPN SILVER: Altantsetseg Battsetseg MGL BRONZE: Manju Kumari IND & Zhang Qi CHN Women's Freestyle -62kg GOLD: Aisuluu Tynybekova KGZ SILVER: Yukako Kawai JPN BRONZE: Nabira Esenbaeva UZB & Sakshi Malik IND Women's Freestyle -65kg GOLD: Luo Xiaojuan CHN SILVER: Naomi Ruike JPN BRONZE: Aina Temirtassova KAZ & Zorigt Bolortungalag MGL Women's Freestyle -68kg GOLD: Sara Dosho JPN SILVER: Zhou Feng CHN BRONZE: Divya Kakran IND & Meerim Zhumanazarova KGZ Women's Freestyle -72kg GOLD: Yuka Kagami JPN SILVER: Jeong Seo-yeon KOR BRONZE: Nilufar Gadaeva UZB & Zhamila Bakbergenova KAZ Women's Freestyle -76kg GOLD: Pa Liha CHN SILVER: Hiroe Minagawa JPN BRONZE: Chang Hui-tsz TPE & Hwang Eun-ju KOR Edited April 28, 2019 by Quasit Stopped watching sports, there are better things in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted April 28, 2019 #18 Share Posted April 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Quasit said: Well, why didn't you post women's results? for a simple reason, i didn't watch and follow the women's competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitinsanker 179 Posted May 3, 2019 #19 Share Posted May 3, 2019 On 28/04/2019 at 19:21, MHSN said: for a simple reason, i didn't watch and follow the women's competition. was very suprised that india got 4 medals in greco ......we were pathetic only won one match in 2018 worlds and were nowhere in asian games ....... what was the reason this time ? .......... 3 ( 2 silvers and a bronze ) out of 4 were in olympic weights so that was very encouraging also ....... in fact we had done suprisingly well in the juniors in 2018 also ...... so something is changing though none of them have graduated to the seniors .... though sajjan came close to a medal in the u23 worlds strength does not come from physical capacity but from an indomitable will. - Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,153 Posted May 3, 2019 #20 Share Posted May 3, 2019 15 hours ago, nitinsanker said: was very suprised that india got 4 medals in greco ......we were pathetic only won one match in 2018 worlds and were nowhere in asian games ....... what was the reason this time ? .......... 3 ( 2 silvers and a bronze ) out of 4 were in olympic weights so that was very encouraging also ....... in fact we had done suprisingly well in the juniors in 2018 also ...... so something is changing though none of them have graduated to the seniors .... though sajjan came close to a medal in the u23 worlds well I watched most of the competition, all of the medal matches and most of the preliminary rounds (of course you can't watch 3 mats at the same time) first I have to say winning 4 medals is a great result for India. but I have to say luck also played a little factor here. at least for some of them. for example 60kg guy only had to beat Chinese Taipei and Jordan to win the bronze. and he lost 9-0 in semifinal in less than 2 minutes to Bakhromov. if you check the results , most of your defeats were quick 8-0 in first period. why ? because they can't defend well in par terre. and one caution is usually enough for the opponent to score big points in par terre and finish the match quickly. all of those 3 finalists had to come back from being down (2 of them being down 5-6 points) to win the match. because they "survived" the parterre and then destroyed the opponent by being physically tough. I can't remember the last time India beat Iran in Greco-Roman in senior level. (I'm sure it happened before but no match comes to my mind right now) not because we have the best Greco wrestlers in the world. mostly because our wrestlers have more or less the same style as yours and a bit better. you can't beat Iranian wrestlers by "being tough" and tiring them down. we have problem with Kazakh and Kyrgyz wrestlers for example because they are technical. they can score big throws . Indian wrestlers are less technical but if you don't score big early in the match they will beat you in second period. just an example. we have a wrestler world bronze medalist Mohammad Ali Geraei his style is different than the rest of our team. he is much more technical and less "physically strong" he dominated everybody at the Asian Games, but his only close match (which he almost lost) was against your wrestler Gurpreet. he was very close to finish the match 8-0 in 2 minutes but then he only won the match narrowly 8-6. and he would lose the match if there were 1 minute more left. and then Gurpreet lost easily in repechage to the Chinese wrestler Geraei teched easily. two of your 3 finalists lost easily, no surprised they faced World and Olympic medalists in the final. your 87kg guy (I didn't know him before) made it really hard for our Hossein Nouri (we consider him an Olympic medal candidate) he was impressive. even though I can say Gurpreet Singh is the best Greco wrestler you have right now. my point is. your wrestlers still have certain weaknesses. mostly in defending parterre. that's what they have to work on if they want to improve to another level. but still this was a very high level competition, and winning 4 medals was a great result. you have chance to qualify 1-2 wrestlers for the Olympics. but of course that will depend on the draw and also how many Asian wrestlers qualify in the World Championship to make room for the others. with only 16 spots available in each weight, it will be harder for everybody to qualify. nitinsanker and Dolby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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