heywoodu 13,554 Posted December 9, 2019 #701 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Khadidja Aisha said: Ofcourae the eussia ban has nothing to do whit doping, it is a way to punish Russia, as yjr punish England for huliganism, when worst huligans are GERMANS.. How people can be so blind that they really think it has nothing to do with doping is just unbelievable, but sure, everything being a big bad conspiracy sounds a lot tastier of course. Edited December 9, 2019 by heywoodu If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadidja Aisha 29 Posted December 9, 2019 #702 Share Posted December 9, 2019 No Russia is yhe 6 most doped nation not number one it is Kazakstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbadjan and Thailand, thet dident punished them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,594 Posted December 9, 2019 #703 Share Posted December 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, heywoodu said: How people can be so blind that they really think it has nothing to do with doping is just unbelievable, but sure, everything being a big bad conspiracy sounds a lot tastier of course. Unless IAAF bans Kenya or Ethiopia from taking part in their events, these conspiracy theories will have a lot of oxygen to breathe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 13,246 Posted December 9, 2019 #704 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Khadidja Aisha said: number one it is Kazakstan well, not impossible, because you probably must be stoned to do things like that in front of millions of viewers NikolaB, Laraja, phelps and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,140 Posted December 9, 2019 #705 Share Posted December 9, 2019 It's such a stupid ban You can compete in all events, but if you qualify, there will be a white flag next to your name. Russia can play in the football World Cup qualification and if they go to Qatar it would be a neutral team/nation Almost anyone can still go and win medals, they just won't count towards Russia, but in the end everyone, who keeps up the statistics will still count them towards Russia's historical count and it won't make any difference. So what will happen to all the quotas they have won for Tokyo. Let's say wrestling, where they have 9 quotas for now. Will they be scrapped, how will they be replaced, will they be allowed to compete in the other categories next year, in which OQT, as neutral team in the specific european region.... That counts for every other sport, where the russian participation has messed up other athletes/nations chanced of qualifying. I don't like outside BS, which messes up the sporting flow of the competitions, results, records. You either ban only the athletes, for who you have proof, or you ban the whole nation, if it's a stateside machine. If you are russian, you don't compete period. Thank your country or change your nationality and never compete for Russia again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikolaB 394 Posted December 9, 2019 #706 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted December 9, 2019 #707 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Olympian1010 and thiago_simoes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikolaB 394 Posted December 9, 2019 #708 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Nobody here said that Russians are angels, they have huge problem with doping, but blame entire country for that? It's not fair for all clear athletes from Russia who can't compete under their own flag. United States, China and Russia completely destroy world sport with their insane race for global dominance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,858 Posted December 9, 2019 #709 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dunadan said: https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2019-12/wada-executive-committee-unanimously-endorses-four-year-period-of-non-compliance CRC Chair, Jonathan Taylor QC, said: “Today, the ExCo has delivered a strong and unequivocal decision. While being tough on the authorities, this recommendation avoids punishing the innocent and instead stands up for the rights of clean athletes everywhere. If an athlete from Russia can prove that they were not involved in the institutionalized doping program, that their data were not part of the manipulation, that they were subject to adequate testing prior to the event in question, and that they fulfil any other strict conditions to be determined, they will be allowed to compete. “WADA now has the names of all suspicious athletes in the LIMS database, and thanks to the painstakingly forensic nature of the investigation, this includes the athletes whose data was manipulated or even deleted, including the 145 athletes within WADA’s target group of most suspicious athletes but also others beyond that target group. While I understand the calls for a blanket ban on all Russian athletes whether or not they are implicated by the data, it was the unanimous view of the CRC, which includes an athlete, that in this case, those who could prove their innocence should not be punished, and I am pleased that the WADA ExCo agreed with this.” well, if (and it's a big if) this is the case, they must publish that list immediately (and fu*k all the privacy rules...the question goes well beyond that and it's a lot more important)... all the sports fans in the world have all the rights to know who's a cheater and who's not... p.s. and imho, 2 or more positive tests within a team = no team sport in Tokyo... at the same time, stop this OAR/ANA or whatever they want to name it farce!!! if there are some clean athletes who have been capable of qualifying, they should compete under the Russian Flag (and be able to listen and sing their National Anthem in case they win a gold medal)... IOC should have all the interest to show that nobody is discriminated and all the clean athletes are more than welcome to the OGs, also the clean Russians... Edited December 9, 2019 by phelps Ros and NikolaB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadidja Aisha 29 Posted December 9, 2019 #710 Share Posted December 9, 2019 i saw the statosocs of it yesterday. Nobody spras of the thai stat sponsored doping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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