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5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Gender non-discrimination bills. A female (even self-claimed) has a right that should be entitled to any person. Essentially no one can be discriminated against based on gender.

That's all cool and stuff for daily life, but it's just not fair if a male proclaims himself female (which one has every right to do, or at least one should have that right) and goes and compete against born females, who are then automatically put at a major physical disadvantage. There's a reason so many more of these problematic cases in sports are around females who are born male rather than males who are born female.

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1 hour ago, Vektor said:

 

Christ, this is so, so wrong. I fully support the trans community, but gender politics should stay out of sports. I guess it would make things clear for everyone if the IOC would rename the events and have them as "High testosterone" (formerly "Men's") and "Low testosterone" (formerly "Women's") events. That way people wouldn't be able to claim that IAAF is trying to force athletes into the wrong gender category. 

Or just have one open category. Not the men's 800m and women's 800m, but only the 800m. I've got a feeling we're gonna see some complaints then though.

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

That's all cool and stuff for daily life, but it's just not fair if a male proclaims himself female (which one has every right to do, or at least one should have that right) and goes and compete against born females, who are then automatically put at a major physical disadvantage. There's a reason so many more of these problematic cases in sports are around females who are born male rather than males who are born female.

Completely agree.

I was speaking same thing first time this info appeared.

Someone can feel as man or woman, i respect that. But if Usain Bolt, in some parallel universe, decides to be a woman, would it be fair to have him competing against other women? His 9.58 wouldnt change just because he is Usaina and not Usain.

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6 hours ago, Dolby said:

So, any man who declares himself to be a female can participate in 2028 Olympics in women categories? 

Yes, and IOC rules would allow that.


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1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yes, and IOC rules would allow that.

That would make for some very understandable protests.

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No way this holds up. A lot of things can still happen until 2028 ;)

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2 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

No way this holds up. A lot of things can still happen until 2028 ;)

Well the IOC (or actually USOPC since the IOC only answers to Swiss court) could face legal challenges in the state. Their own rules also allow for transgender athletes, so they would have to change their rules too. 


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If this really happened, the door would be wide open for cheaters who claim that they consider themselves women just to get some easy Olympic Gold medals. It would be the death of women's sports. In no way should this happen. All those female athletes who aren't XY have their Rights as well.

 

The transgender athletes with high Testosteron can start at the men's competition. Nobody forbids them to do this.

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8 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said:

If this really happened, the door would be wide open for cheaters who claim that they consider themselves women just to get some easy Olympic Gold medals. It would be the death of women's sports. In no way should this happen. All those female athletes who aren't XY have their Rights as well.

 

The transgender athletes with high Testosteron can start at the men's competition. Nobody forbids them to do this.

But if you say this, it's transist.

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