MHSN 3,047 Posted November 8, 2018 #141 Share Posted November 8, 2018 They should really bring back the scoring system for Kata, it's OK to keep the knockout format as it is but this is stupid that refs only have to declare winner by just a flag. I would like to see a score like 9.88 to 9.50 instead of just a 5-0 ! I know Kata is essential in Karate but having JPN-ESP in all 4 team and individual finals just shows how predictable this is. Iran will be in men's team Kata bronze medal match vs Turkey. even though Turkey will be huge favorite here still it's good to have a representative in a Kata medal match. to me there are so many problems with Karate competition 1) time of the competition, to me having 4 minutes (for both men and women) plus 1 minute of extra time will be fine. 2) format of the competition, having all finals at the same day is not a good idea. they just can have 2-3 events per day with finals in evening. 3) the way they start and finish one event before moving to another one. just doesn't make sense. they can finish the 1st round of event A and then go to 1st round of event B and so on. with this athletes will have enough time to recover between their matches. right now sometimes there is less than 5 minutes rest. 4) scoring system in Kata as I explained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 8, 2018 Author #142 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 ore fa, heywoodu ha scritto: 2016 men: Japan vs France 2016 women: Japan vs Spain 2014 men: Spain vs Egypt 2014 women: Germany vs Japan 2012 men: Japan vs Italy 2012 women: Japan vs Italy 2010 men: Japan vs Italy 2010 women: Japan vs Vietnam 2008 men: Japan vs France 2008 women: Japan vs France Japan against France or Italy seem much more boring predictable results than Japan against Spain that was the past... in the last couple of years all the main events have JPN then ESP and then ITA as an established ranking (since Karate became more widely spread around the world, France are losing day after day their superiority, especially in Kata)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 8, 2018 Author #143 Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 ore fa, MHSN ha scritto: They should really bring back the scoring system for Kata, it's OK to keep the knockout format as it is but this is stupid that refs only have to declare winner by just a flag. I would like to see a score like 9.88 to 9.50 instead of just a 5-0 ! I know Kata is essential in Karate but having JPN-ESP in all 4 team and individual finals just shows how predictable this is. Iran will be in men's team Kata bronze medal match vs Turkey. even though Turkey will be huge favorite here still it's good to have a representative in a Kata medal match. to me there are so many problems with Karate competition 1) time of the competition, to me having 4 minutes (for both men and women) plus 1 minute of extra time will be fine. 2) format of the competition, having all finals at the same day is not a good idea. they just can have 2-3 events per day with finals in evening. 3) the way they start and finish one event before moving to another one. just doesn't make sense. they can finish the 1st round of event A and then go to 1st round of event B and so on. with this athletes will have enough time to recover between their matches. right now sometimes there is less than 5 minutes rest. 4) scoring system in Kata as I explained basically I agree on everything... I'd be happy also with just 3+1 minute as the Kumite bouts time limits (4+1 would be better, but still)... and the best competition format to me is the one used in wrestling until last year (I don't like the idea of a competition over more than 1 day)...preliminaries and repechage in the early session and finals in the late session... moreover, having 12 individual events (10 kumite + 2 kata) in the schedule, I'd like to see 3 events per day over 4 days (1 kata and 2 kumite classes in the first 2 days and 3 kumite weights in the last 2 days, with the heavyweights always as the final class, of course)... MHSN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 8, 2018 Author #144 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Today's action so far... Men's Team Kata Gold Medal Match: Japan vs Spain Bronze Medal Match #1: Turkey vs Iran Bronze Medal Match #2: Italy vs Malaysia Women's Team Kata Gold Medal Match: Japan vs Spain Bronze Medal Match #1: Italy vs Serbia Bronze Medal Match #2: Turkey vs Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlFHg 330 Posted November 8, 2018 #145 Share Posted November 8, 2018 I didn’t know that even for team events two bronze medal were awarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 9, 2018 Author #146 Share Posted November 9, 2018 men's team Kumite, semifinals Azerbaijan vs Turkey Iran vs Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 9, 2018 Author #147 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Iran won and so they're once again through to the Gold Medal match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted November 9, 2018 #148 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Iran in team kumite final again despite not being an Olympic event still team kumite is a very prestigious . Iran won this title in 2014 and 2016 and now there is a chance to win it for the 3rd time in a row. Iran had an easy draw until the semifinal where they beat Italy 3-0 thanks to Askari, Asiabari and Ganjzadeh winning their matches . the final will be between Iran and Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,535 Posted November 9, 2018 Author #149 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Men's Team Kumite Gold Medal Match: Iran vs Turkey Bronze Medal Match #1: Azerbaijan vs Japan Bronze Medal Match #2: Italy vs Senegal Edited November 9, 2018 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,047 Posted November 9, 2018 #150 Share Posted November 9, 2018 what a pity. Iran lost to Japan in a very close match, before the last match for Alipour Iran was leading 1-0 and Alipour herself was leading 1-0. but lost it 2-1 in last 10 seconds and in extra match between Abbasli and Uekusa they finished 0-0 and Japan won by Hantei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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