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Biathlon 2018 - 2019 Discussion Thread

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Yeah, that's the other part ;) 

 

But Uiloq Slettemark only competed into her 50s to get the nation's quota for her daughter so I guess Ukaleq can start at IBU Cup level now? How those points work out exactly?

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10 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Yeah, that's the other part ;) 

 

But Uiloq Slettemark only competed into her 50s to get the nation's quota for her daughter so I guess Ukaleq can start at IBU Cup level now? How those points work out exactly?

First point: Ukaleq - like anyone else as long as it's not more than X per nation - can start in the IBU Cup whenever she wants. To be able to start in the next trimester, she needs to get under 250 points at least once (shouldn't be a problem for her). If she somehow doesn't manage to get that, she has to skip a trimester and wait for the next one.

 

Nation quota don't mean too much for the IBU Cup in terms of being able to start, I believe it's more a matter of getting some extra money if you have a certain rank. If you and I were to defect to Bhutan, start the Bhutanese Biathlon Federation and show that we're capable of safely handling a rifle, we would be welcome and allowed to represent our new nation of Bhutan in the IBU Cup even if we're lightyears behind, at least for one trimester.

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34 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

And, you know, qualify :p 

Oh yea, that small part!  :)

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39 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

First point: Ukaleq - like anyone else as long as it's not more than X per nation - can start in the IBU Cup whenever she wants. To be able to start in the next trimester, she needs to get under 250 points at least once (shouldn't be a problem for her). If she somehow doesn't manage to get that, she has to skip a trimester and wait for the next one.

 

Nation quota don't mean too much for the IBU Cup in terms of being able to start, I believe it's more a matter of getting some extra money if you have a certain rank. If you and I were to defect to Bhutan, start the Bhutanese Biathlon Federation and show that we're capable of safely handling a rifle, we would be welcome and allowed to represent our new nation of Bhutan in the IBU Cup even if we're lightyears behind, at least for one trimester.

 

My impression was that Ukaleq can use the points accumulated by her mother going forward even if she has no competition in her country. There are some entries based on nation's points like they have in alpine skiing? That's more or less how the extra six entries for Olympics in 2018 worked for teams outside Top 18(?) in the Nation's Cup (where like Japan took three of them on the men's side). So I wonder if this is to help Ukaleq have an easier path for the 2022 Olympics?

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I'm not sure about all the qualifying rules and quotas and stuff for Olympics/World Cups, I just know that for the IBU Cup there's really not much of a restriction as long as you represent a national federation and can handle a rifle safely :p 

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

Nation quota don't mean too much for the IBU Cup in terms of being able to start, I believe it's more a matter of getting some extra money if you have a certain rank. If you and I were to defect to Bhutan, start the Bhutanese Biathlon Federation and show that we're capable of safely handling a rifle, we would be welcome and allowed to represent our new nation of Bhutan in the IBU Cup even if we're lightyears behind, at least for one trimester.

 

Who is up for this in the 2019/2020 IBU cup season?  That would be a ton of fun!  Now, I am not being serious, but I do like this rule for a couple of reasons, it does not put a barrier on new nations from competing.  

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4 minutes ago, RobtheAggie said:

 

Who is up for this in the 2019/2020 IBU cup season?  That would be a ton of fun!  Now, I am not being serious, but I do like this rule for a couple of reasons, it does not put a barrier on new nations from competing.  

Absolutely, and it keeps giving athletes from small nations some incentive to keep on competing because the federations get money per starting athlete :p Which then goes to the athletes (like Croatia, at least partially) or not (hello Brazil), but anyway it can offer some kind of help (if a national federation would use it wisely).

 

IBU Cups are fun though :d No huge masses of people you have to push your way through*, quite a 'familiar' setting, pretty accessible and so on

 

*although in Arber it is busy enough to not be able to stand at the front when the races are going on and you arrive too late or are pacing back and forth

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Would say a Biathlon Federation of Catalonia be allowed?  If Greenland is, I would think that Catalonia would be allowed.

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5 minutes ago, RobtheAggie said:

Would say a Biathlon Federation of Catalonia be allowed?  If Greenland is, I would think that Catalonia would be allowed.

I’m setting up a USVI federation too:p

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6 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I’m setting up a USVI federation too:p

I will be the 2nd leg of the Men's relay.

 

On a more serious note, are the smaller nations who compete the germination of a particular athlete or a concerted effort from the nation?  Take Brazil by example.  Is that the athletes or the nation?  I have an idea, but I was wondering.

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