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Deaths of Olympians in May. Chung Hae-won, 60 - Football Antonina Ryzhova, 85 - Volleyball (1×S) Georgios Zaimis, 82 - Sailing (1×G) Fernando Sandoval, 77 - Water Polo Gennadiy Solodov, 85 - Athletics Pavle Jovanovic, 43 - Bobsleigh Stefan Burkart, 62 - Athletics Diran Manoukian, 101 - Hockey Antonio Piraino, 91 - Equestrian James Hill, 89 - Rowing John O'Brien, 88 - Water Polo Ronald Ludington, 85 - Figure Skating (1×B) Ingvar Ericsson, 92 - Athletics Franco Nenci, 85 - Boxing (1×S) Marko Elsner, 60 - Football (1×B) Wolfgang Gunkel, 72 - Rowing (1×G) Alexander Gerasimov, 61 - Ice Hockey (1×G) Roberto Moya, 55 - Athletics (1×B) Hector Ochoa, 77 - Football Jose Jacinto Hidalgo, 77 - Athletics Balbir Singh Snr, 96 - Hockey (3×G) Bruno Galliker, 89 - Athletics Gustaaf De Smet, 85 - Cycling Bobby Morrow, 84 - Athletics (3×G) Peter Schiller, 62 - Ice Hockey After 42 deaths last month we have a much shorter list this month although it includes five Olympic champions. Both Balbir Singh of India and Bobby Morrow of the USA won three Olympic gold medals culminating in success at the 1956 Games in Melbourne. India has won eight men's Olympic hockey titles including six in a row between 1928-56. Singh was a member of the team for the last three of those wins and captained the side in 1956. His wonderful record has been alluded to earlier in this thread but his record of five goals in an Olympic final may stand for all time. Unlike Singh, Morrow only competed at one Games picking up golds in the 100m, 200m and 4×100m relay. He retired two years later at the age of just 23 although he subsequently made a failed attempt to return in order to try and qualify for the next Games in Rome. The Greek sailor Georgios Zaimis won a gold medal in the three man Dragon class at the 1960 Games. Among his crewmates was the both future and former King Constantine of Greece. Alexander Gerasimov of the former Soviet Union was a member of their gold medal winning ice hockey team in 1984. He is the second member of the squad to die this year following the death of Alexander Skvortsov in February. Finally, Wolfgang Gunkel won a gold medal for the former East Germany in the coxed pairs at Munich in 1972. Unlike the others Stefan Burkart of Switzerland was not an Olympic champion but at the age of 38 years, 10 months and 14 days he was the oldest person to compete in the Olympic 100m until 40 year old Kim Collins surpassed that record in Rio.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/52862637 Live sport starts to return to tv from next Monday here in the UK.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Maughan Paralympics rather than Olympics but Margaret Maughan who won two gold medals in archery and swimming at the first Paralympic Games in 1960 has died. She also lit the cauldron at the opening of the 2012 Games in London. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/52740803
Unfortunately, my laptop is out of action at the moment so I cannot assist you. Apologies.
Given the extension to the qualifying period the athletic authorities in each country that have already nominated athletes are going to have to reconsider those decisions. There is no certainty that they will necessarily still go to Tokyo. I know in the UK each of the sports that had already selected athletes for 2021 have gone through the process of deciding whether their nominations still stand. In most of those sports qualifying had almost closed whereas there is clearly a long way to go in terms of qualification for athletics. With this in mind I think using quotas rather than "nominated" athletes makes more sense at this point.
You're correct it is misleading. They are the athletes who have qualifying marks unless there are more than three. However, in fairness to the editors of the wiki page they are preparing for the point when countries do start nominating athletes in each of the events. It is useful though, in that it does give an indication of the likely number of quotas a country may win on an ongoing basis and is relevant to the question which Benolympique raised.
It's not an unreasonable thing to do. Subject to injury I imagine most countries are going to send their athletes to Tokyo if they have achieved the qualifying marks. Of course, you may have to add more marathon runners and race walkers when qualifying resumes at the end of the year. Qualification for the marathon and 50k walk resumes on 1/12/20 and ends on 31/5/21. For the 20k walk it starts on the same date and ends on 29/6/21.
I'm not sure how reliable this is but I think it is pretty accurate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletics_at_the_2020_Summer_Olympics_–_Qualification I you click on the individual sections it lists the numbers qualified for each individual event for each country to date. It lists the athletes with qualifying performances unless a country has more than three athletes with such performances in which case it is marked [a].
Austria's Johanna Bassani who won a silver medal in the Nordic Combined Mixed Team event at this year's Winter Youth Olympic Games has been found dead just a few weeks after her 18th birthday. https://www.web24.news/u/2020/05/great-hope-of-austrian-skiing-found-dead.html
The delay in holding the Games seems potentially likely to effect qualification in golf - and likely tennis - more than most sports given that it is based on rankings and players now have potentially another year to amass points.
And not a speed skater to be seen!
Only the ones that have died this year so far. Abadi Hadis, 22 - Athletics (long term illness) Braian Toledo, 26 - Athletics (traffic accident) Vesa Tornroos, 37 - Shooting (cancer) I could probably provide you with information for the intervening years but you may have to wait a week or two as I am fairly busy at the moment.
Deaths of Olympians in April. Goyo Benito, 73 - Football Keizo Yamada, 92 - Athletics Eric Verdonk, 60 - Rowing (1×B) Thio Gim Hock, 82 - Water Polo Kenneth Farnum, 89 - Cycling Borje Stattin, 90 - Gymnastics Ferenc Fuzesi, 59 - Handball Adlin Mair-Clarke, 78 - Athletics Donato Sabia, 56 - Athletics Fariborz Esmaeli, 79 - Football Roger Chappot, 79 - Ice Hockey Lars-Eric Lundvall, 76 - Ice Hockey (1×S) Guy Miserque, 74 - Hockey Marianne Lundquist, 88 - Swimming Alfred Hagn, 72 - Alpine Skiing Francisco Aritmendi, 81 - Athletics Alfonso Marquez, 82 - Basketball Peter Whiteside, 67 - Modern Pentathlon Nate Brooks, 86 - Boxing (1×G) Vesa Tornroos, 37 - Shooting Eric Mergenthaler, 56 - Sailing Bojana Milosevic, 54 - Basketball (1×S) Victor Hendrix, 84 - Rowing Walter Hoover, 85 - Rowing Lukman Niode, 56 - Swimming Francois Lafortune, 87 - Shooting Margit Otto-Crepin, 75 - Equestrian (1×S) Kevin Gill, 58 - Shooting Noureddine Diwa, 83 - Football Hartwig Gauder, 65 - Athletics (1×G, 1×B) Edward Winchester, 49 - Rowing Zarbeg Beriashvili, 80 - Wrestling Abolfazi Salabi, 96 - Basketball Francesco Perrone, 89 - Athletics Maryna Bazhanova, 57 - Handball (2×B) Luigi De Rossa, 84 - Athletics Janis Lusis, 80 - Athletics (1×G, 1×S, 1×B) Gerson Victalino, 60 - Basketball Billy Ringrose, 89 - Equestrian Chuni Goswani, 82 - Football Doug Anakin, 89 - Bobsleigh (1×G) Robert Beck, 83 - Modern Pentathlon (2×B) And four late reported deaths from March. Alain Macle, 75 - Ski Jumping Mykhaylo Storozhenko, 82 - Athletics Bruce MacDonald, 92 - Athletics Jim Bailey, 90 - Athletics As @Olympian1010 surmised there has been a significant rise in the number of deaths this month with forty two reported to date. They include three former Olympic champions. Eric Gauder of the former East Germany won a gold medal in the 50 km walk at the 1980 Games in Moscow. As at all the Games between 1976-84 the athletics programme was diminished by significant political boycotts but Gauder demonstrated his class at the highest level by winning the gold medal at the 1987 World Championships and followed this up with a further bronze medal at the 1988 Olympics. Janis Lusis was a Latvian who represented the former Soviet Union at four games between 1964-76. A javelin thrower he won the Olympic title in Mexico city in 1968 and followed this up with a silver in 1972. He had earlier won the bronze in Tokyo in 1964. Finally, Nate Brooks of the USA won the gold medal in the flyweight boxing class in 1952. The Belgian shooter Francois Lafortune never won an Olympic medal but with appearances at seven Games between 1952-76 he is his country's record holder. Only fourteen athletes have competed at more Games. However, he was not the only Olympian in his family as his father competed at five Games between 1924-60 and his uncle at four between 1936-60. They too were shooters and all three competed together at the 1960 Games in Rome. In addition, another uncle won a silver medal for gymnastics on home soil at the 1920 Games in Antwerp. Altogether the four men competed at seventeen Olympic Games between them which is a record for any family from any country. Lastly it was particularly sad to note the death of 37 year old Vesa Tornroos of Finland from cancer. He is the third athlete to compete at the last summer Olympics to have died in the past three months. UPDATED to include the death of Doug Anakin who was a member of Canada's gold medal winning four man bob team at Innsbruck in 1964. UPDATED to include the death of Robert Beck of the USA who won bronze medals in both the individual and team modern pentathlon events in 1960.
For what it is worth all-time medal tables for individual sports at world and continental level all seem to take the same stance on those countries which have emerged from the break up of former countries or in the case of Germany split and reunified. We may or may not agree with them but there is little chance that the treatment of the medals won by those countries or their successors is going to change.
The 1912 Games began with tennis on 5th May and didn't close until 22nd July so like the others it was a lengthy affair. Paris in 1924 also lasted three months. Amsterdam in 1928 was the first two week games and that continued in 1932 and 1936.
That may well be correct although Yuste is the first one I've seen that definitively attributes death to the Coronavirus. I'm sure there are going to be a lot of people both in and out of the sporting world who are going to die from Cofid-19 without it necessarily being identified as the cause of death, particularly among the elderly. As you say it would be surprising if some of the other deaths among Olympians over the past few months haven't been down to the virus.
Deaths of Olympians in March. Robert Shavlakadze, 86 - Athletics (1×G) Levan Moseshvili, 79 - Basketball (1×S) Geza Uto, 90 - Rowing Tatyana Prorochenko, 67 - Athletics (1×G, 1×S) Jozef Gyuricza, 86 - Fencing (1×B) Wolfgang Hofmann, 78 - Judo (1×S) Kevin Bacon, 87 - Equestrian Dana Zatopkova, 97 - Athletics (1×G, 1×S) Henry Smith, 64 - Athletics Chris Reed, 30 - Figure skating Phil Olsen, 63 - Athletics Aarne Kainlauri, 104 - Athletics Mohammad Ami-Tehrani, 84 - Weightlifting Malcolm Yardley, 79 - Athletics Tadashi Kato, 85 - Cycling Edi Ziegler, 90 - Cycling (1×B) Vladimir Zabrodsky, 97 - Ice Hockey (1×S) Borislav Stankovic, 94 - Administrator Singaram Balasingam, 72 - Hockey Behrouz Rahbar, 74 - Cycling Jack Henn, 79 - Volleyball John Davies, 90 - Swimming (1×G) Daniel Gevargiz, 79 - Weightlifting Petra Hillenius, 52 - Swimming Pearson Jordan, 69 - Athletics Kwasi Owusu, 72 - Football Daniel Yuste, 75 - Cycling Ivo Mahlknecht, 80 - Alpine skiing And two late reported deaths from February. Guillermo Sola, 90 - Athletics Balbir Singh Kullar, 77 - Hockey (1×B) I believe March has seen the first death of an Olympian attributed to Cofid-19 following the passing of former Spanish cyclist Daniel Yuste yesterday. We will be fortunate if he is the last. On a more positive note more than seventy Olympians have lived to be centenarians. Aarne Kainlauri who died in March aged 104 was the third Finn to achieve that mark. The longest lived Olympian was American shooter Walter Walsh (1907-2014) who died five days short of his 107th birthday. The oldest living Olympian is another American John Lysak (born 16/8/1914) who competed in flat water canoeing at the 1936 Games in Berlin. A number of the other Olympians who died last month have already been discussed earlier in this thread including the great Czech athlete Dana Zatopkova. Among the others who have passed away in March were John Davies of Australia who won a gold medal in the 200m breaststroke at the 1952 Games and Robert Shavlakadze of the former Soviet Union who was the Olympic champion in the high jump in Rome in 1960. Wolfgang Hoffman of the United Team of Germany competed in the first Olympic judo tournament in Tokyo in 1964 winning a silver medal. There were only four classes at this first outing for the sport and all were for men in the days before the IOC gave any thought to equality. Japan won three of the four golds with the Netherlands winning the other. Finally I have included the administrator Borislav Stankovic who although both a player and coach never competed at an Olympic Games. He did serve on the Yugoslav NOC and the IOC, but it was as Secretary General of FIBA between 1976 and 2002 that he had most influence. Among other things he changed the rules to enable professional players from the NBA to compete at the Olympics bringing about the arrival of the USA's so-called "Dream Teams" at the Games.
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