Dragon 1,674 Posted September 16, 2022 #8991 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Apparently great minds think alike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapaj 297 Posted September 16, 2022 #8992 Share Posted September 16, 2022 14 hours ago, Vic Liu said: Apparently majority of Hungarians are brainwashed and controlled by dictator Orban and it needs democratic revolution and bombs and sacrifice brought by the NATO. You mean the majority of the voters. Orbán has some racional answers to some serious questions, while the lefties just follow the EU' insanity. That's enough him to win elections. Vic Liu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,715 Posted September 16, 2022 #8993 Share Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, lapaj said: You mean the majority of the voters. Orbán has some racional answers to some serious questions, while the lefties just follow the EU' insanity. That's enough him to win elections. Agree. I don’t think that a bunch of people who think you can run an industrialised country off windmills or that men can get pregnant have the standing to go around telling anyone else how to live their lives. konig and lapaj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,558 Posted September 17, 2022 #8994 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) "Hey bros, let me share some little secrets of NATO with you guys" photo shot during the break of SCO meeting in Uzbekistan Edited September 17, 2022 by Vic Liu Griff88, lapaj and phelps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted September 17, 2022 #8995 Share Posted September 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Vic Liu said: "Hey bros, let me share some little secrets of NATO with you guys" photo shot during the break of SCO meeting in Uzbekistan Is this one of them cute classic 'sit around in a circle' birthdays? If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikolaB 394 Posted September 17, 2022 #8996 Share Posted September 17, 2022 One of the best jokes I read for a while 😂😂😂 konig and Dnl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted September 17, 2022 #8997 Share Posted September 17, 2022 On 9/16/2022 at 5:39 AM, Vektor said: The issue is first and foremost with the media, which is incredibly one-sided. The power that Orbán has in his hands to control the narrative in Hungary is simply ridiculous and it shouldn't have been allowed to happen inside the European Union, but here we are. The EU should have implemented some very strict rules on state controlled media in their member states, so we couldn't end up in a situation where opposition politicians are not even allowed to speak on national television. State controlled media should represent and be for every citizen, it should be neutral, not right-wing or liberal, but here in Hungary it only represents Orbán, Fidesz and the conservative worldview. But the damage has already been done, there's no going back. The EU is waaaay too late to correct their mistakes. Orbán is here to stay for a very long time and I can't even say that we are undemocratic. Hungarian people have decided that they want to live under Orbán, they like his way of thinking, his worldview, his narratives about decaying Western world. This is where we are now, this is what Hungarian society can reach on their current level of development and the EU can't do anything about it other than hope that Hungary will choose a different path once Orbán is gone after a couple of more decades. How is the political sistem in your country?, presidencialist?, parlamentarism?. Its a wire political phenomenon the hungarian for being in the UE, its very common to see this in Latin America, specially with left populist goverments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted September 17, 2022 #8998 Share Posted September 17, 2022 I understand a little more about the Sweedish situation after read this note: https://spectatorworld.com/topic/sweden-democrats-far-right-elections/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,283 Posted September 17, 2022 #8999 Share Posted September 17, 2022 23 hours ago, Grassmarket said: Agree. I don’t think that a bunch of people who think you can run an industrialised country off windmills or that men can get pregnant have the standing to go around telling anyone else how to live their lives. I pity you and all who has to live together with many people who thinks craps like that and want to impose to the rest using the state. In Latin America, at least for now, its a clearly minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted September 17, 2022 #9000 Share Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, konig said: How is the political sistem in your country?, presidencialist?, parlamentarism?. Its a wire political phenomenon the hungarian for being in the UE, its very common to see this in Latin America, specially with left populist goverments. It's parliamentary. The head of state (president) has no power whatsoever, the Parliament holds all the power. But that's not really the case anymore, in reality the Hungarian Parliament has become a joke, Orbán essentially makes ALL the decisions as the prime minister, he holds absolute power over his party, which has supermajority in the Parliament, therefore one man rules all, which is the opposite of what a parliamentary system should be. Hungarian society is simply not capable to move on from their desire to have a "strong leader who rules us all". We were meant to be a representative democracy with a prime minister who is waaay less powerful than the governing party or parties themselves. But we couldn't have that, we need our strong leader... And this is event true for the left-wing Hungarians, they are happily worshipping their own version of Orbán. We are not ready to be a real democracy and we won't be for quite some time. Any advances we made after the fall of communist was undone by the last two decades of awful Hungarian leadership, and this includes the failures of the left-wing during the second half of the 2000s, not just Orbán. Edited September 17, 2022 by Vektor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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