Vic Liu 1,558 Posted January 27, 2023 #791 Share Posted January 27, 2023 19 hours ago, rafalgorka said: I wonder what China thinks about Russia in Asian qualis. It will be a bit harder to qualify in certain sports with Russia competing in Asian zone very tricky situation but no serious discussion yet in China. It will not only affect China, other Asian powerhouse like Japan and Korea will also be affected in terms of quotas. I guess it will not be easy to implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted January 27, 2023 #792 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Here's a solution: allow Russian and Belorussian athletes to change their nationality and complete under the flag of any other nation without the current strict nation changing rules. With the added notion that they can't easily go back to being Russian athletes once the ban on their country is over. If they don't agree with the action of their country, allow them to leave their country for good, in an easy way that they can compete in 2024. No neutrality bullshit where Russia can spin it in a way that they are still Russian. They won't be Russian if you see a flag of some other nation next to their name. This would be a much bigger humiliation than the ban or the neutrality, seeing their best talent flee their country and leaving their failed state behind. Edited January 27, 2023 by Vektor Grassmarket, FancyFenchel and Wanderer 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,177 Posted January 27, 2023 #793 Share Posted January 27, 2023 In other words: I have nothing against Russian and Belarussian athletes competing in Paris2024 if they don't support the war... as long as they would like to compete for us. Wanderer, phelps and FancyFenchel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,181 Posted January 27, 2023 #794 Share Posted January 27, 2023 18 hours ago, LowerSaxony said: That might be true to some degree.. but the difference to all wars somewhere in the world in recent history is that one land is stealing territory from another here. Not really, palestinians for ex. also claim someone stole their land, many other wars have the same basic motive as well. The main difference is that the ukrainian goverment has more consensus in the world about being the legitimate owner of the disputed territories. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 3,569 Posted January 27, 2023 #795 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Vektor said: Here's a solution: allow Russian and Belorussian athletes to change their nationality and complete under the flag of any other nation without the current strict nation changing rules. With the added notion that they can't easily go back to being Russian athletes once the ban on their country is over. If they don't agree with the action of their country, allow them to leave their country for good, in an easy way that they can compete in 2024. No neutrality bullshit where Russia can spin it in a way that they are still Russian. They won't be Russian if you see a flag of some other nation next to their name. This would be a much bigger humiliation than the ban or the neutrality, seeing their best talent flee their country and leaving their failed state behind. You're basically asking for resident status that allows to obtain citizenship. That's too complicated and would have to apply for other nations as well. I can't see governments granting that door. Even Zola Budd obtained UK citizenship based on her grandfather being British to compete in 1984 Olympics. Maybe @Grassmarketadds more details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 2,715 Posted January 27, 2023 #796 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Monzanator said: You're basically asking for resident status that allows to obtain citizenship. That's too complicated and would have to apply for other nations as well. I can't see governments granting that door. Even Zola Budd obtained UK citizenship based on her grandfather being British to compete in 1984 Olympics. Maybe @Grassmarketadds more details? Yeah, she had legal eligibility & there was a press campaign to accelerate the process in time to get her passport granted before a given date, but that was all. No laws were broken, just a few civil servants missed their tea break. Edited January 27, 2023 by Grassmarket rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,417 Posted January 27, 2023 #797 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Zelenskyy released a recorded speech in response to the IOC’s recent statement. Benolympique 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,417 Posted January 27, 2023 #798 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Some more negative reactions to the IOC statement. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,674 Posted January 27, 2023 #799 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Grassmarket said: Yeah, she had legal eligibility & there was a press campaign to accelerate the process in time to get her passport granted before a given date, but that was all. No laws were broken, just a few civil servants missed their tea break. Yep, her grandfather was British so her father could automatically claim British citizenship and, since Zola was under 18, when her father got citizenship Zola got it too. It was definitely rushed through thanks to the help of one specific newspaper who had strong ties with the UK government. Of course, even though everything was done absolutely legally, the South African government still portrayed it as a victory for them over the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,674 Posted January 28, 2023 #800 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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