SalamAkhi 277 Posted February 28, 2022 #101 Share Posted February 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Agger said: There's really no way to disconnect those two, sadly. Russia have been using sports for political purpose quite a lot. Personally I wouldn't mind Russian athletes participating as long as they unconditionally go against the invasion and show up without anything russian. Meanwhile people like Karjakin and Viatjeslav Barkov should be kept far away from international events. But also, I do think the IOC has a decent point. The invasion keeps Ukrainian athletes away as their country is under attack. Then let's keep the attacking nations away as well. So no more freedom of opinion ? "Are you unconditionally against the invasion" ? "Yes of course (not at all in fact, what are you gonna do ? Torture me ?)". What about non-Russians/Belarussians possibly in favor of it too ? Are we implementing a kind of "Freedom Pass" ? "I see you've not provided any position on this matter on Instagram, please proceed or we shall consider you pro-Russian". NMQ and Biathlonfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted February 28, 2022 #102 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Here come the CAS cases. ‘Russian football's governing body, the RFU, said it "categorically disagreed" with the decision and would challenge it "in accordance with international sports law". ‘ CAS’s future is 100% on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted February 28, 2022 #103 Share Posted February 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, Agger said: There's really no way to disconnect those two, sadly. Russia have been using sports for political purpose quite a lot. Personally I wouldn't mind Russian athletes participating as long as they unconditionally go against the invasion and show up without anything russian. Meanwhile people like Karjakin and Viatjeslav Barkov should be kept far away from international events. But also, I do think the IOC has a decent point. The invasion keeps Ukrainian athletes away as their country is under attack. Then let's keep the attacking nations away as well. That's fucking insane. You want to ban people from sport (and from their living) based on their political view. opruh and Biathlonfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehair43 177 Posted February 28, 2022 #104 Share Posted February 28, 2022 From the BBC The International Equestrian Federation has announced it will remove international events from Russia and Belarus and stop athletes and officials from both countries from participating in all competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,552 Posted February 28, 2022 #105 Share Posted February 28, 2022 6 hours ago, hckošice said: Yep the groups should be A- (Helsinki): Canada Russia Austria Germany Switzerland Slovakia Denmark Kazakhstan Italy B- (Tampere): Finland USA Czech Republic Sweden Latvia Norway Belarus France Great Britain The only question which will remain is (if the IIHF council will confirm it tonight) if there will be any relegated team from the tournament, if no: RUS and BLR would be able to return next year. if there would be relegation: than RUS and BLR will be really retrograded to Division IA this year and since they will not be allowed to play they will be by default relegated to Division I B next year and so on... How long does this thing need to go on in order for Russia and Belarus to be relegated so much that the Netherlands can move up? hckošice 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,552 Posted February 28, 2022 #106 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, justony said: My opinion is sports should not be conflicted with politics. It is fair they cancelled all competitions, especially due to safety reasons. But it is definitely not right to punish athletes, who do not have nothing with political actions of their "leader". It is plain stupid and unfair. Exactly. Or well, make them compete under a neutral flag, we can't go around parading Russian and Belarussian flags and such...the only reason to take them out of sports is to try and create more unrest against Putin, but that's not likely to work I guess. Makedonas and konig 2 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted February 28, 2022 #107 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Why Azerbaïdjan has not been banned by any sport federation ? Lack of twitter outrage ? ... LuizGuilherme, FancyFenchel, Makedonas and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 421 Posted February 28, 2022 #108 Share Posted February 28, 2022 Anyone who says that sport is out of politics - do you support the Putin regime? Excellent initiatives from international federations, let them continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted February 28, 2022 #109 Share Posted February 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said: Why Azerbaïdjan has not been banned by any sport federation ? Lack of twitter outrage ? ... I suppose there must be someone out there who thinks France should also be banned for keeping troops in Mali for years. You see, almost no nation is safe, so drawing criticism against other nations here to take the focus off of the Russia-Ukraine conflict will take us nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,477 Posted February 28, 2022 #110 Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Agger said: There's really no way to disconnect those two, sadly. Russia have been using sports for political purpose quite a lot. Personally I wouldn't mind Russian athletes participating as long as they unconditionally go against the invasion and show up without anything russian. Meanwhile people like Karjakin and Viatjeslav Barkov should be kept far away from international events. But also, I do think the IOC has a decent point. The invasion keeps Ukrainian athletes away as their country is under attack. Then let's keep the attacking nations away as well. I do think this a policy worth exploring. It could help organize a uniform response to military conflict and political crisis in the future. Makedonas 1 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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