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6 minutes ago, George_D said:

what happened?

Some dispute between the president and a province governor due to a debt. But it's nothing that drastic and the president is probably right in this specific issue.

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44 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

I think his speech got a lot of positive reviews:

 

Quite funny that he flew commercial, while all those people who desperately want to save the climate flew private, producing infinitely more CO2 ...

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentinas-milei-heads-davos-taking-seflies-criticizing-socialist-agenda-2024-01-16/

 

 

I welcome the austerity but flying there to say nazism, communism and social democracy is all the same... you could hear the crickets in the auditorium at the end.

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Here kids expect gifts on both days. 

  

Well, at least that's how it used to be, don't think many families can afford it these days. 

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This will be a wild day between the protests and the alleged emergency decree revoking/modifying 600 laws (!)

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33 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Honestly I doubt Venezuela would actually attack. Is anyone anywhere in the region going to accept that? Venezuela might beat tiny Guyana and take most of their terrority if there was no help in any way at all, but I doubt they stand a chance against basically any other power in the area.

 

Besides, several significantly stronger countries than Venezuela have some influence in the wide area and likely won't exactly want a war close to them. Seems like just your typical thing to deflect attention from how bad the government is doing.

 

That link you posted about Brazil increasing it's military presence in the northern border says a lot though. Specifically, the photo says a lot:

 

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Members of the National Bolivarian Armed Forces of Venezuela organize the people who participate in an electoral simulation before the referendum on December 3 over Venezuela's rights to the potentially oil-rich region of Esequiba in Guyana, in Caracas, Venezuela November 19

 

If actual armed forces are around and this openly involved in elections/referendums, you know it's just another scam election/referendum, Russia-on-Ukrainian-territory-style.

If some third party were to intervene (militarily speaking) it would only be USA, nobody else is interested in this conflict as longs as it doesn't go beyond the region in question (Esequibo).

 

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Javier Milei is the new president of Argentina, the other candidate just admited defeat.   

 

 

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1 hour ago, konig said:

He didnt scream or doing nothing wire/freak, for TV he can give a very particular image, you know what i mean.

 

Nothing happen like "zurdo de mierda, pasame los chinchulines", for example 

You mean wild?

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14 minutes ago, konig said:

 

In 2019, with some friends, we invited him to our city Bahia Blanca for presenting his new book and we have a barbecue after that, "nothing wire" with him and he didnt win any money for this, even he pays his airline ticket.

What does "nothing wire" mean?

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13 minutes ago, mrv86 said:

 

So sad that Argentina now has to look to a clown like Milei as al alternative, same as Mexico did back in 2018.

Btw nothing to say about his political qualities but I found the AMLO reaction faces to watching Milei videos so funny  not the commentary, just his faces.

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27 minutes ago, George_D said:

 

 

from what i have been reading for years now, Massa is considered a "center-right"(Federal) peronist. Kirchner and his wife were left wing peronists. Correct me if i am mistaken. . . 

I wouldn't describe any faction of peronism as right wing except maybe in the 90s. Federal peronism is centrist at most. These labels are always a bit relative to what's in front though. 

What matters anyway is that an hypothetical government of Massa would certainly follow leftist policies for the most part even if he himself is not the most leftist member of the coalition.

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7 minutes ago, konig said:

Incredible results, only in Argentina......

 

"Far  rigth" ok........i have no desire to discuss.

I only used the descriptions that majority of political analysts (both national and foreign) would use to label these parties.   

  

Btw you should cheer up, it's still perfectly possible for Milei to win (ofc I wouldn't want it, but it's a realistic scenario still).

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Presidential elections in  finally arrived... here are provisional results (but already a big % of the vote computed):

 

Sergio Massa ("Unión por la Patria", the ruling centre left party) 36%  

  

Javier Milei ("La libertad avanza", far right) 30%  

  

Patricia Bullrich ("Juntos por el Cambio", Centre right) 23%  

  

Other minor parties combined: 9%.  

   

  

There will be a run-off in November between Massa and Milei. 

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3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Sadly certain parts of the world are basically permanent wasp nests. Sometimes it cools down for a bit, but there's always going to be whatever that kicks the nest and the whole thing blows up again, be that with actual war or non-stop bitching between countries (especially the whole big line between roughly Morocco east towards Turkey or so).

 

And now the Poland vs Ukraine bitching contest, nobody really cares about what the presidents of the countries say (especially now, because the international eyes are still firmly on Ukraine vs Russia and not on it's neighbours), but it does fill up a bit of space in the news broadcasts, so there we go.

"International eyes" = western europe/USA, who bitch all the time about stuff only they care about but since they are powerful we're all supposed to pretend it's the most important thing in the world.

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Why would you go back to Russia after doing that. I would fly straight to Africa or middle east and never come back until Vlady dies. 

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Boo, just when we were getting to the best part.   

 

This has to be all staged. 

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It's legit, confirmed by Vlady. 

 

Let's go grab the popcorn.

  

 

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Hope it's the most fun option (coup) but it sounds too dumb to be true. Probably some sort of staging to justify another military purge (boring).

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30-70 in favor of public would be ideal. Enough to prevent clown acts from winning but also to not see a quality crowd favorite like Finland lose.

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8 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Europeans have garbage taste. My family is convinced xenophobia is responsible for

Every time they send Flamenco-like music they get trounced.

They should just accept at this point they have to embrace the latino reggaeton-type trash in order to have a chance 

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Does the academy ever publish the voting results? 

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1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

 

 

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Although on the other side of jobs, openings won't really be running out for a good while until at some point AI runs and creates AI's which are then also strong and good enough for all kinds of 'basic' jobs like construction  

 

Btw watch one of those Boston dynamics videos and tell me those guys won't be laying brick in 30 years time 

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55 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

The generation after us however would then be the one which still needs to pay for everything, but can't get any money because all the jobs have gone tits up thanks to AI  

 

 

That sounds like the recipe for a revolution.   

I guess it would be easier for the people in power to just establish an universal income system.  

 

Or maybe they just solve the problem by killing a lot of people, who knows.

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3 hours ago, Federer91 said:

 I fully expect by the time our generation retires it would be like 75 years.

 

 

Mate, by that time working will be almost optional due to AI replacing everything  

 

Sadly (or happily?) we'll probably be the scammed generation, working all our adult lives like slaves just to see it become pointless right at the end.  

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3 hours ago, phelps said:

Padel, unfortunately...

Same. I thought that trash had died in the 90s. 

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3 hours ago, OlympicsFan said:

Would it be correct to assume that you aren't familiar with the work of Ludwig Wittgenstein?

Just a bit (read parts of his two main works) but not a fan of him, anyone from the same branch or "analytic" philosophy in general.