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Summer Olympic Games 2020 Medal Count
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2 hours ago, Maxim Fastovsky said:

So usa or China have basically no chance to be number 1.   We can't win thousand medals 

:nopompom:Have you watched the video ? This is not a per capita table, it's specifically designed in a way so that the biggest countries have a shot without winning "thousands medals".

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Summer Olympic Games 2020 Medal Count
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:hearts: The definitive olympics dick-o-meter has been found. It's called the "impressiveness-o-meter" and I love it :hearts:

 

 

 

Short story: basic medals table sucks, per capita table sucks, this does not. Long story here (actually not that long, don't worry) :

 

 

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1. Rate the performance on a scale of 1-10

 

3/10 Poor, but not completely awful as one could have feared at some point during the games thanks to the last week-end. The overall number of medals is a major disappointment (worst total tied with Athens since 1992), but the number of golds (and thus our ranking in the medals table) is around what was expected.

 

Obviously, with Paris as the next host, one would have assume that we would have been on the rise before our home games like previously hosts were. But it was never going to happen : overall, we had a poor qualification run and probably had a worst team with less potential medallists than in Rio.

 

2. What were the surprises and  heartbreaks ?

 

The surprises have been few. The biggest one being Romain Cannone ranked world number 47 or something and eventually gold medallist in fencing. Team sports have also been incredible successful with 6 medals and 3 golds with only the 3*3 women basketball team being a let down. The men's volleyball team gold seem to me like the biggest surprise any french NT ever achieved during the olympics (possibly tied with the men's handball bronze in 1992)

 

Heartbreaks ? So many... Just on the top of my head: Vincent Luis (Triathlon), Herbert-Mahut (tennis), the men's épée team, the men and particularly the women MTB team, Vincent Daudet (BMX), Benjamin Thomas (Omnium) Marc Antoine Olivier (OW swimming), Valentin Prades (Pentathlon) ...  Major contenders for gold who all failed to reach their objective and even worst to even secure a podium, which largely explains why we didn't achieve as many medals as we are used to.

 

Cycling have once again been the major disappointment of the french team. They were expecting 6 medals and are leaving Tokyo with 2 bronze... At some point, you can't blame everything on 'bad luck". There is something wrong here, that need to be fixed ASAP.

 

Contrary to Rio with boxing and athletics (6 medals each), we didn't have any sport really overperforming. Judo (8 medals) and fencing (5) have been by far our main medals factories, but that was expected and I don't think such level of success was out of reach prior to the olympics.

 

As I've said on the other thread, what worries me the most is that once again we have failed to match our results from the previous world championships during the olympics. 

 

3.Was your country's goal achieved? 

 

Nothing was set in stone, but the discussion was about 40 medals. So, no.

 

4. Which are the sports that will be invested more in future?

 

Not one in particular, but it seems that the money will be less spread accros sports and that we are moving slowly to an athlete-per-athlete approach.

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1 hour ago, orangeman said:

Overall, Canada historically has an issue with finishing 4th.  There have been quite a few articles written about it in the past, and as a nation we always try to figure out why.  This time I believe we got 12 4ths, along with 3 other bronze medal losses (in combat sports, so technically you finish 5th).  That's 15 near misses for a country that got 24 actual medals.  I'm not sure about this year, but it has been proven in many other Olympics that Canada gets the most 4th/5th places with regard to their actual medal count. Some of these 4ths were shocks (men's 4x100 freestyle relay) and some were due to injury (Rosie in trampoline), but it's still incredibly frustrating as a Canadian sports fan.  Some will say it's a sign of how powerful the whole team is among a variety of sports, but you start to believe your country just lacks the killer instinct to get to the top.   

I think most countries believe their athletes lack this 'killer instinct' to reach golds/medals. We all tend to overplay the potential of our own, and when they fail to reach this slightly illusional potential, we go for the easy answer : they lack some kind of mental strength. When really, it's more complex than that.

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Tokyo Summer Olympic Games 2020 News
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In France, 50 millions have watched on average 8 hours of Tokyo 2020 (+6 millions from Rio)

 

Sunrise, surprise, the numbers are also good with the youngsters with 90% of the 15-24 having watched some of the olympics. The introduction of breakdancing in three years is already showing some results (official IOC statement)

 

https://www.france24.com/fr/info-en-continu/20210809-plus-de-50-millions-de-téléspectateurs-pour-les-jo-de-tokyo-sur-france-télévisions

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17 minutes ago, Cobi said:

Only 66.3% of the Spanish population (30M) watched the Olympics. It is the smallest share since we started collecting TV data in Barcelona 92. The record goes back to Sidney 2000 with 93.3% of the population watching at least one event.

 I assume these numbers coverage traditional TV only, and not any streaming survives (which should push the number a bit higher) ?

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7 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

1. Rate the performance on a scale of 1-10

 

 

0/10 We had our worst tally since Athens. No one expected that. Fuck, we are the next host, we were supposed to be on the rise before Paris, so actually it's -10/10 . But, BUT we had 3 golds in team sports, so it's like 40 golds in one ! And that includes the freaking volleyball team, that same one that was almost out after two games, that same one who was lead 0-2 against Slovenia in Berlin OQT in January 2000 ! And, we secure our Top 10 in medals table, even overpassing Germany and Italy on the last days just for the sake of it !

 

So really...

 

I don't know / 10

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I was looking at other nations numbers and Germany seems to have the exact same problem than us witch very similar numbers. Since 2012, on average, they have 'lost' 6 medals and 2.8 golds each winter and summer olympics vs the last world championships (-5.6 and -2.4 for France)

 

Now, we understand why @OlympicsFanis constantly angry.

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11 hours ago, Nickyc707 said:

Is it France underperforming, other countries raising their game for the Olympics or a combination of the two? You mentioned disappointing results in athletics and swimming but I was also shocked by the results from cycling a sport in which historically France has been the most successful nation.

 

It's difficult to believe that France won't get a bounce in Paris but what are the powers that be doing to ensure it happens? Is there anyone out there putting any pressure on them or don't people care?

Definitely both. Triathlon is another fine exemple of that.

 

A sort of UK Sport has been set up a couple years ago (Agence Nationale du Sport) mainly to tackle the high performance sector of french sport. Former - very successful - handball NT coach Claude Onesta is leading it. I like his talk and I believe he has the right ideas in mind, yet he is facing an old system (a quasi socialist one tbf) that it's very difficult to move.

 

People care, but the public discussion is mainly about funding or very long-term issues (like the already mentioned sport at school). Our system has become inefficient and doesn't know how to peak at the right time (the olympics). On that last point, we still could make a big difference by 2024. Hopefully, the right questions will be asked by the right people.

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Generally speaking, Tokyo 2020 was poor for french hopes. 33 medals is our lowest total since Athens. Expectations before the games were about the same as Rio (42 medals despite the 10% extra events we had in Japan). We are for from it.

 

Many of our biggest gold hopes (MTB, BMX, men's team epée, Vincent Luis, Herbert-Mahut for the second time, Benjamin Thomas, etc.) fail to even reach the podium.

 

Ok, poor olympic games can happen. The issue being that lately we only had poor olympic games. Since 2012, we continually fail to match the results we had in world championships prior to the Olympic Games (thanks again @sindo for the great work)

 

Image

 

(mondiaux = world championship; or = gold; médailles = well, medals )

 

It seems like we are continually underperforming during the olympics which is as much disappointing that it is frustrating. I would very much prefer it to be the other way around...

 

We talk big plans about sport in school and sport facilities and whatever. But we have an immediate problem here that could rapidly (?) and easily (?) be fixed, and nobody seem to acknowledge it. Very frustrating.

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On 20/08/2017 at 00:03, Sindo said:
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  • Medals obtained by Nations only in Olympic Events, considering only the Latest World Championships for each Sport.

 

  • When a new World Championships is held, previous World Championships' medals will be removed from this Medal Count and replaced by the new set of World Championship medals for these events.

 

  • Medals obtained by Nations without a recognized Olympic Committee (Scotland, Faroe Islands, etc.) will be assigned to the Nation for which they will compete for at the Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games (if Scotland wins a medal in Men's Boxing AIBA World Championships, then that medal will be assigned to Great Britain, if Faroe Islands wins a medal in Swimming FINA World Championships then that medal will be assigned to Denmark etc.)

 

  • Some World Championships allow Athletes from different Nations to compete as a Pair or Doubles Team. This is not possible at the Olympic Games, so in case a mixed team win a World Championships medal, that medal will be awarded to both Nation.

 

  • Some sports do not have a proper World Championship and some events have a World Championship format which is different to the Olympic format. In order to consider every single Olympic event in the Medal Count, the World Championships medals for these events will be awarded according to different formats, listed in detail year by year.

 

  • Click on a Nation to open that Nation's Medals.

 

Rank
Nation
Gold
Silver
Bronze
Total
1
USA.gif United States
50
27
23
100
2
CHN.gif China
41
31
24
96
3
RUS.gif Russia
28
27
18
73
4
JPN.gif Japan
18
25
16
59
5
GER.gif Germany
17
7
19
43
6
GBR.gif Great Britain
16
14
23
53
7
NED.gif Netherlands
15
16
6
37
8
FRA.gif France
14
10
18
42
9
AUS.gif Australia
12
17
19
48
10
NZL.gif New Zealand
10
4
3
17
11
HUN.gif Hungary
8
5
4
17
12
KOR.gif South Korea
7
6
14
27
13
BRA.gif Brazil
6
6
9
21
14
ITA.gif Italy
5
12
19
36
15
POL.gif Poland
5
7
8
20
16
KEN.gif Kenya
5
2
4
11
17
ESP.gif Spain
4
12
10
26
18
CUB.gif Cuba
4
5
2
11
19
UKR.gif Ukraine
4
4
8
16
20
CAN.gif Canada
4
2
16
22
21
DEN.gif Denmark
4
2
2
8
22
CZE.gif Czech Republic
4
2
0
6
23
TUR.gif Turkey
3
5
5
13
24
JAM.gif Jamaica
3
5
4
12
25
UZB.gif Uzbekistan
3
2
3
8
26
TPE.gif Chinese Taipei
3
2
2
7
27
GEO.gif Georgia
3
0
3
6
28
ETH.gif Ethiopia
2
5
1
8
28
IRL.gif Ireland
2
5
1
8
30
BLR.gif Belarus
2
4
4
10
30
PRK.gif North Korea
2
4
4
10
32
BEL.gif Belgium
2
3
3
8
32
SRB.gif Serbia
2
3
3
8
34
AZE.gif Azerbaijan
2
2
3
7
35
GRE.gif Greece
2
2
2
6
36
IRI.gif Iran
2
1
4
7
37
PHI.gif Philippines
2
1
1
4
38
SLO.gif Slovenia
2
0
2
4
39
UGA.gif Uganda
2
0
0
2
40
SWE.gif Sweden
1
7
9
17
41
CRO.gif Croatia
1
4
7
12
41
IND.gif India
1
4
7
12
43
SUI.gif Switzerland
1
4
6
11
44
KAZ.gif Kazakhstan
1
2
10
13
45
NOR.gif Norway
1
2
3
6
45
POR.gif Portugal
1
2
3
6
47
ARM.gif Armenia
1
2
2
5
48
COL.gif Colombia
1
1
3
5
49
INA.gif Indonesia
1
1
2
4
49
ISR.gif Israel
1
1
2
4
49
THA.gif Thailand
1
1
2
4
52
BRN.gif Bahrain
1
1
1
3
52
QAT.gif Qatar
1
1
1
3
54
BAH.gif Bahamas
1
1
0
2
55
GRN.gif Grenada
1
0
0
1
55
KGZ.gif Kyrgyzstan
1
0
0
1
55
PER.gif Peru
1
0
0
1
55
VEN.gif Venezuela
1
0
0
1
59
ROU.gif Romania
0
3
2
5
60
MEX.gif Mexico
0
2
3
5
61
EST.gif Estonia
0
2
2
4
61
MAS.gif Malaysia
0
2
2
4
63
BUL.gif Bulgaria
0
1
4
5
63
RSA.gif South Africa
0
1
4
5
65
AUT.gif Austria
0
1
3
4
65
ECU.gif Ecuador
0
1
3
4
67
ARG.gif Argentina
0
1
1
2
67
CHI.gif Chile
0
1
1
2
69
ALG.gif Algeria
0
1
0
1
69
BIH.gif Bosnia and Herzegov.
0
1
0
1
69
LAT.gif Latvia
0
1
0
1
69
PUR.gif Puerto Rico
0
1
0
1
73
HKG.gif Hong Kong
0
0
4
4
74
KOS.gif Kosovo
0
0
3
3
74
MGL.gif Mongolia
0
0
3
3
74
MAR.gif Morocco
0
0
3
3
77
EGY.gif Egypt
0
0
2
2
77
NGR.gif Nigeria
0
0
2
2
79
BAN.gif Bangladesh
0
0
1
1
79
BUR.gif Burkina Faso
0
0
1
1
79
CIV.gif Cote d'Ivoire
0
0
1
1
79
DOM.gif Dominican Republic
0
0
1
1
79
FIN.gif Finland
0
0
1
1
79
JOR.gif Jordan
0
0
1
1
79
KUW.gif Kuwait
0
0
1
1
79
MDA.gif Moldova
0
0
1
1
79
NAM.gif Namibia
0
0
1
1
79
MKD.gif North Macedonia
0
0
1
1
79
SVK.gif Slovakia
0
0
1
1
Total
192857frds9zgqqf9xsy4x.png Road 192857frds9zgqqf9xsy4x.png
to Tokyo 2020
339
340
421
1100


Once again, we :FRA are doing a lot less than what the last world championsips could have let us believe....

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Same here, thank you very much dead-nintendo-franchise-man ?

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These are our worst olympics in 30 years, yet we are going to secure our precious top 10. The handball and volleyball golds are really somthing that we will cheerish for the next hree years to come.

 

Bring Paris 2024 ASAP :boxing:

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7 minutes ago, Quasit said:

After Day 8 Rio: 139/306 events, 64 NOCs with medals

After Day 8 Tokyo: 154/339 events, 76 NOCs with medals

 

 

Only 10 more countries left until the Rio number of 86 NOCs winning medals is equalled. It's looking very good seeing as for example Armenia or Kenya are still to join. Speaking of distribution, the :USA US had twice as many golds in Rio (24-18-19) than the second-placed :CHN Chinese team (12-11-17). The current Top 3 are finding themselves much closer together than five years ago (:GBR with 10-13-7 in Rio). We might see :JPN Japan slowing down a bit with judo finished, although women's wrestling is next. 

 

The :TPE Taiwanese badminton gold already guarantees them their best performance ever (2-2-1 in Athens 2004).

 

 

4th place counter*

 

(18) :USA 

(13) :GBR 

(12) :CAN 

(10) :ITA 

(9) :NED 

(8) :ROC 

(7) :CHN:FRA:HUN

(6) :GER:MEX:TUR

(5) :GEO:JPN:KOR

(4) :AUS:TPE:UKR

(3) :BLR:BEL:BRA:DEN:ISR:NOR:ESP:SUI:UZB

(2) :COL:CIV:MOZ:POL:SLO:ROU

(1) :ALB:ARG:AZE:BIH:BUL:CRO:CUB:CZE:DOM:ETH:FIN:HKG:IND:INA:JOR:KAZ:LTU:MRI:NIG:PAN:POR:SRB:SGP:SVK:THA:VEN and the Refugee Olympic Team

 

*5th places in events that award two bronze medals; also includes QF losers in boxing

 

I know it will be a lot of work, but have you considered making some kind of Placing Table (1 point for a 8th place, 2 for a 7th, etc.)

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For those who don't know, Gracenote is updating its prediction table after each day. Some stuff might seem counter-intuitive like Germany up or Italy down from their day 0 prediction.

The biggest winner so far being  :USA (+13) and the biggest loosers :HUN (-7) & :NED (-6)

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

51QZFVGQDWL.jpg

 

Example:

https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/olympic-games/en/results/all-sports/noc-schedule-netherlands.htm

 

 

Keep in mind that in one-day events like judo, taekwondo, fencing and so on, they do only show the first round of course, since the potential next rounds aren't in the schedule by name yet, so that's something to either refresh during the day or keep an eye on yourself.

Thanks, it doesn't appear on the french version of the website...

 

Edit; it actually does. Let's blame the lack of sleep.

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Probably allrealy discussed. But we can't filter the schedule by nation on the website, right ?

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1 minute ago, Monzanator said:

Okay, the human pictograms are cool.

 

One guy has to remember all 50 events in the right order? :p

It's fun, but really it should be a YouTube video... 

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1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

Maybe we'd finally have sports where more people are actually cheering for certain athletes instead of whoever happens to have the same nationality in their passport :d 

No, no one would care

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Apparently the imagine thingy was the big secret that no one was supposed to know before the actual ceremony.. Ok

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"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace" 

 

... and no olympics

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French TV: And after 7 minutes, we have our first 'between tradition and modernity' point

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