Yeah, and then next year we get more normal weather with mud, some of the ponds being frozen on the way etc, and it's going to be impossible to finish for a few years
2025, the year no one makes it to loop two?
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
It would certainly be interesting if there were back-to-back multi-finisher years given the reputation of the race. 2012/2013 is the only time it’s happened before (with three and two finishers respectively).
has the similar level athletes in women's 100 and men's marathon, can go either (or even both) ways
They have an athlete who may be able to get a quota in the women's 400m hurdles. In that case, I'd assume they'd use the invitation to send a male athlete.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
Also,i'm not taking it as an insult,but i'm not a fox news watcher or reader,so them proclaiming a wiewpoint doesn't automatically mean i support it that aside all they seem to be doing here is quoting Hiltz who.....this is not a thing.
Genuinely didn't mean it to be an insult by the way. I just wanted to offer an alternative to the first article, since you were confused by the wording.
4 minutes ago, Biathlonfan said:
Even if i accept non binary being a thing,Non binary Transgender is not a thing,you can not just smash the two together and say that your it,now yes all i'm arguing is the whole identifying thing,this is a biological woman,that's awesome,no one was robbed,however,to claim that she won something for the transgender community......when she's not even transgender,this women is litereally asking for people to harass,her because normal people,even in America do not hear or use Transgender-non binary as a single word,and will just assume that she was biologically male,and is now competing in women's spots,this is a really dumb way to try to get attention. There are people like Blaire white in this world people,who actually suffered gender dysphoria,and had to medicall change their body,who are essentially being mocked by what Hiltz is doing,as she takes all the praise,and support......by just proclaiming that she's trans,no work done,no suffering,just says it,i have a massive issue with that.,and that's all i really want to say on the topic.
I would agree that "transgender" and "non-binary" seem juxaposed to one another. I can definetly see non-binary identification as a potantial steeping stone to someone realizing their transgender identity, or not. Personally, I have no idea what Hiltz means by that terminology for it's worth.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
I can declare that i'm a banana,that doesn't mean that i'm actually a banana and people have to just act like there's nothing weird with that.
7 minutes ago, Josh said:
I identify as Mondo Duplantis
Those aren't the same thing as being transgender or non-binary though. They aren't identifying as "non-human," or random objects. Nor, are they commiting identity theft. They're saying they culturally, or in some cases physically, identify with one gender or neither gender.
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“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
But you can’t identify as non-binary, you’re either a male or a female and that’s that. Hiltz is a female. All the various pronouns (he/her/she/they/them/xer?) are bullshit.
11 minutes ago, Biathlonfan said:
there's nonbinary[which i don't consider anything but a western invention].and there's being transgender which is an actual proven thing,they are not the same thing,no matter how much non binary ''activists'' are trying to claim that they are.
I think non-binary has more to do with people not identifying with commonly proclaimed masculine or feminine traits. It could also mean someone doesn't want their biology being considered when talked about (ie, essentially idenfiying as "general human"). I realize that aspect of that may be more difficult in the context of sport. Nonetheless, I don't feel like someone not wanting be connected to prescripted ideas of gender is that bad, honestly.
“Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela
There is no such thing as ''assigned at birth'' unless your a hermaphadite,you are either a girl or a boy.I can declare that i'm a banana,that doesn't mean that i'm actually a banana and people have to just act like there's nothing weird with that.Also i don't know why you are bringing transgender into this.there's nonbinary[which i don't consider anything but a western invention].and there's being transgender which is an actual proven thing,they are not the same thing,no matter how much non binary ''activists'' are trying to claim that they are.
That phrasing is a commonly accepted way of describing people's birth gender in the United States. If you don't like the way that source worded it, here's a quote from a story Fox News wrote about them: "Hiltz, a biological female who identifies as transgender non-binary, said it was a win for the trans community."
Confusion over their gender aside, it's nice to see them getting some top results at the international level. They've been a popular runner on the domestic scene for a while, so I think a lot of people who bee happy to them qualify for the Olympics.
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