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Prashanth    20

Saina Nehwal is bound to be out of the rest of the season...She would be ready for practice in 2 months and by the time she recovers fully the season would have ended. So She would be ready by next season only....:(:( 

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Madhusudhan    5

The Cuban guy(Ramirez) who defeated shiva thapa in 1st round went on to win gold.... such a unlucky 1st round match for thapa even though he is ranked in top 5....

I thought Shiva is our best bet but he was literally toyed by Cuban guy....... even vikas krishnan got pounded by uzbek guy.... its pity that boxing has gone backwards thanks to internal pollitics

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Madhusudhan    5

loss of final medal chance in yogeswar dutt is exact indication of india performance in this olympics........ so much of promise but no medals to show 

Now officially yogeshwar is out... the mongolian lost to russian in QF

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Hazique    1

The whole situation of indian sport after olympics is a lot of negatives and very few positives while its a vice versa for other nations. 

We will never be a good at sports until wrong people are incharge of our sports, until political leaders who dont know shit about sports are sitting at the top as authority.

Sometime its a very shameful feeling when u see a nation like ivory coast and jordan who might not have 10% of population which we do is having a gold medal and we dont.

We only have jitu rai after narang and bindra, none of the male wretlers even felt like giving a competition to others.

Boxers even failed to qualify in numbers.

Hockey seems to progressing a bit but a lot of work is required to be done, womens archery is not doing that well.

Athletics is still the same as it was 10 years ago as no major athlete who can reach the world class level was seen in this olympics.

Only few positives were deepa karmakar, atanu das, datta , sindhu, srikanth, mens doubles pair, women wrestling.

Its time for getting back to the drawing board because its a lot of a mess to be cleared before tokyo 2020

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tirtha22    14
14 minutes ago, Hazique said:

Only few positives were deepa karmakar, atanu das, datta , sindhu, srikanth, mens doubles pair, women wrestling.

 

not womens wrestling but sakshi malik.. also include dattu bhokanal ... aditi ashok ( not sure ) , Lalita Babbar

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Dolby    122

Now that Olympics, are almost over, I would like to give my assessment of how Indian fared in both Qualifications and Olympics and future prospects for each sports over the next few days. I will start with Archery. 

 

Archery is a very fickle sport. Korea is in a league of their own and after that, a number of nations can win on any given day. India is part of that group of nations but sadly, we never seem to win on the given day. Men's team not even qualifying for Olympics was a big disappointment. Archers started well in qualifications but second half was simply disastrous. Though, we managed to get decent draws inspite of bad qualifications (once again showing the fickle nature of Archery), we couldn't capitalise on it. There is immense talent in the team but somehow they always falter at Multi Sports Games. 

 

Before London Games, our team was in great form and we were among favourites for medal but team suffered a complete meltdown. Archery Association (among the best run Sports Federation in India, according to me) did take corrective measures after that. They have a strict and transparent selection policy. When Deepika was out of form in 2014, even she was dropped from the team. Learning from London, this time, our team was sent quite early to Rio to get acclimatised to conditions better. There were mental conditioning camps for the team as well.  Our team did perform better compared to London. They looked much more composed. Sadly, that was not enough and we failed to reach later stages of competition once again. 

 

Going forward, I honestly don't know what to expect. We have a decent pool of young archers who are doing well in international events. We do need special training for windy conditions. Also, we need more archers to push Deepika. Though Korea won both individual events, the eventual gold medal winners were not the favourites before the games. Korea is so good because all three of their participants are the top level. In India, only Deepika is at that level. Atanu has shown great promise in this Olympics and hopefully, he will also reach the top level soon. But, if we want a medal in Tokyo, we need 6 archers at that level. 

 

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I feel that this disastrous show is good for us in the long run. With social media attention and more people following sports, government should wake up.

Badminton is taken care of with gopi at helm and newly appointed doubles coach will produce results. In mens we have lot of players coming up,  but women worries me as there is no talent after sindhu and saina.

Womens wrestling seems tobe in good direction and mens we have amit kumar and punia.

Womens boxing will have a new Mary Kom in nikhat zareen. She is supported by OGQ and I expect a lot from this teenager. Mary kom boxing foundation will need some time to produce talents. But boxing federation should clear its mess.

Hockey is under good leadership and coach if oltmans stays till tokoyo 2020.

Archery I dont know but they should move over and I saw somewere that the korean coach saying the technique of our girls is not that good. If it is so then they should seriously look into it.

Shooting: Hope gagan stays till next olympics and jitu shoulders the responsibility. We have got some good young talent.

 

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Dolby    122

Next in my list is Badminton: 

 

Qualification was more or less expected. Apart from Mixed Doubles, we had participation in other 4 events. In WS, we had the maximum allowed participation. Kashyap, Jayaram and Prannoy were close to qualifying as well. I feel that if Kashyap had been fit, he would have qualified alongside Srikanth. So, no regrets in qualifications. 

 

Going into Olympics, none of Srikanth, Saina and Sindhu were in great form. Srikanth had a horrible second half in 2015 and Saina's ranking also had dropped significantly. Sindhu also could not improve her ranking enough to get a top 8 seeding. So, as expected, we had to face higher opponents earlier (Jorgensen and Tai in Rd of 16). Doubles team are good enough to qualify but are nowhere near top 8, so once again expectations weren't that high. 

 

Attri/Reddy had the worst possible draw, their 3 group opponents were all ranked in top 10. They had absolutely no chance of qualifying to next stage. They did well in winning a match against Japanese pair. 

 

Gutta/Ponappa had a decent draw. They could have qualified for the next stage if they won against the Dutch pair. But, it was a close match-up and they lost in 3 games. Was a bit disappointed in loss against Thai pair. Though match was inconsequential, ending the Olympics with a win would have been better. 

 

Saina got injured in the run up to the Olympics. As many have pointed out, maybe it was Karma for the bronze she won in London. :( She is a fighter and will come back strongly. Was really sad to see the way her commitment was questioned in media after her loss to Ukrainian. Also, sad was the way, people were making fun of her after Sindhu's medal. :( 

 

Srikanth did well to defeat Jorgensen in Rd of 16. He gave a tough fight to Lin Dan in Quarters. For second Olympics, we have lost in Quarter to a legend. Srikanth is a form player, and hopefully, this performance will give him enough confidence and he will once again reach the level he was in late 2014-early 2015.

 

Sindhu has nerves of steel. Playing her first Olympics, she reached finals. She has now won 2 Bronze and 1 Silver in World Championships and Olympics in last 4 years. Her defence was her weakest link but here she showed immense improvement in defence. Defeating in form Tai, Yihan and Okuhara in straight sets requires great physical and mental strength. In the final, Sindhu played great badminton but Marin was simply better. Sindhu also became the first Indian women to win a Silver. :bowdown:

 

This success we are having in Badminton is result of hard work put in by 3 generations: Prakash Padukone, Gopichand and current crop of players. Padukone and Gopichand academies are doing an excellent work. We have the next batch of youngsters ready to push the current players. Gopichand never had any competition at national level. Aparna Popat was way better than others in WS for a long time. Now, that is not the case. This depth will ensure that we continue to improve in Badminton. 

 

I have high hopes from Badminton in Tokyo. Hopefully, we will also improve in Doubles by that time and will have a large team and multiple medals. 

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Govind    9

I dont want Wrestling also get ruined like Boxing in India.. After seeing what happen to Narsing Yadav..
 

Say to see lose of Dutt in first Half ... Hope Sakshi medal keeps the things high

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