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India National Thread | Road to Tokyo 2020

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Prashanth    38

Golf Ranking

Men's

S Sharma           -113

A Lahiri             - 128

G Bhullar            -133

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Prashanth    38

Just went through Volleyball Olympic qualification and found that India has a great chance to enter the final qualification rounds for the first time.

Top 24 not qualified after continental championships plus the host go into qualifying rounds. 6 groups each of 4 teams and the top team in each group qualifying for the Olympics. Looks the best system for Olympic qualifications.

Indian men team are at 38 place in 2017 ranking list and has time till Jan 2019 to come inside top 31 to make the cut.

But the sorry state of Indian volleyball meant that our ranking would have crashed badly and would be rock bottom on Jan 2019. So unfortunate that our team had best chance to be playing for a spot and not making it.

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sameerph    2
12 hours ago, kapil857 said:

 

Hope you are right but I'll believe the hype when I see performance at the senior level. Just looking at the numbers provided by you, it seems to me that the only real gain has been shooting.

 

And shooting is a gain no doubt - as a country we have definitely improved from where we were in 2014. But I at least am hoping to see those gains in 2020 itself as opposed to 2024. 

 

Still - I personally dont believe in the methodology of counting junior medals at all. Fact is, in today's sporting landscape, youngsters across the world are maturing faster. The best juniors are already competing in the seniors and most of them stop competing in juniors once they graduate to seniors (like our own Sania had done when she was 16). Indian juniors however keep competing in junior events even after having already made a significant mark at the senior level (like Manu, Mehuli, Saurabh etc) as even those wins are starting to make them stars.

 

Then of course there is always the huge issue of age-fudging. Also, by nature, junior athletes are essentially competing against a field of athletes born in a 2-yr period which is small competition as compared to seniors. 

 

Also, if some sort of analysis is done, I would venture a guess that it would be found that 18-yr olds winning an U18 world title rarely make it to the absolute elite level in seniors (because the title is often won with the best 18-yr olds absent and already competing in the seniors). However, a 15-16 yr old winning an U18 title wud have a much better chance.

 

Yes, your point about 2-year period field for juniors in very important. I think for seniors we need to consider 10 year period as average. So, conversion from junior medals to senior medals has to be around 1/5th or so. Therefore, 24 medals at junior world champiionships would mea around 5-6 medals at senior level. That was our level already at London 2012. 

 

Another point is we had 8 medals in youth olympics 8 years back. None of those medalists have gone on to get anywhere close to being medalists in olympics and that 8 medal haul got converted to only 2 medals in Rio 2016.

 

So, we have to be cautious about extrapolating these youth olympic medals and say that we will go to 10 medals level in 2024 olympics. First up I want us to get back r 6 medal level at Tokyo and then see how much we can improve over it by 2024.

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kapil857    25
4 hours ago, sameerph said:

 

Yes, your point about 2-year period field for juniors in very important. I think for seniors we need to consider 10 year period as average. So, conversion from junior medals to senior medals has to be around 1/5th or so. Therefore, 24 medals at junior world champiionships would mea around 5-6 medals at senior level. That was our level already at London 2012. 

 

Another point is we had 8 medals in youth olympics 8 years back. None of those medalists have gone on to get anywhere close to being medalists in olympics and that 8 medal haul got converted to only 2 medals in Rio 2016.

 

So, we have to be cautious about extrapolating these youth olympic medals and say that we will go to 10 medals level in 2024 olympics. First up I want us to get back r 6 medal level at Tokyo and then see how much we can improve over it by 2024.

 

Completely agreed. Junior achievements always need to be taken with a grain of salt. We in India tend to go overboard with them.

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Prashanth    38

Actually the point is how you nurture them and treat them, example was Khade if sponsors or job security was provided he would have been a outstanding swimmer and more medals would have achieved. I always say the moment career security is provided all will improve. Money once poured would drastically improve the results. A sport like Kabbadi where one gets 1.5cr for 4 months is a wonderful moment. 7 players getting 1cr mark is a great thing. then you can attract youngsters to the game. See very soon new stars will emerge and already there.

Same we need to pour money and these youngsters need proper guidance and training to enhance their performance. Diet and proper training with correct security is the need of the hour which India don't provide. Hence there is no proper transition happening.

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Prashanth    38

Indians in Action Today

 

ATP 250 Tour

European Open:- Paes/Miguel, Divj/Artem play in Rd1

Stockholm Open:- Jeevan/Ariel play in Rd1

 

ATP Challenger Tour

Ningbo :- Prajnesh plays in Rd2

                Sumit, Saketh loose in Rd1

                Sriram/Saketh, Prajnesh/Arjun , Sumit/Ramkumar play in Rd1

Wolffkran:- Purav/Antonio play in QF

 

BWF Denmark Open 2018

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ITF Tennis

Egypt:-

China:-

Egypt:-

Tunisia:-

 

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Prakash    4

Praveen Chitravel Clinches Bronze Triple Jump at Youth Olympic Games

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