Gianlu33 3,570 Posted October 23, 2017 #1231 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Great news from Slovenia! Pahor and Sarec will go to the ballot for the president election and both are from centre-left. Probably - I hope - Pahor will win the ballot VolleyRuller96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted October 23, 2017 #1232 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gianlu33 said: Great news from Slovenia! Pahor and Sarec will go to the ballot for the president election and both are from centre-left. Probably - I hope - Pahor will win the ballot Why is that by definition great news? Centre-left doesn't automatically mean something is good Edited October 23, 2017 by heywoodu Wanderer 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,570 Posted October 23, 2017 #1233 Share Posted October 23, 2017 2 hours ago, heywoodu said: Why is that by definition great news? Centre-left doesn't automatically mean something is good Great is when a candidate have almost all my idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,298 Posted October 23, 2017 #1234 Share Posted October 23, 2017 12 hours ago, LDOG said: Anyone can beat Cristina to be honest... we will see realistic election results when she isn't around anymore. You are rigth but there are important defeats without her, like Menem in La Rioja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,197 Posted October 23, 2017 #1235 Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) hace 27 minutos, konig said: You are rigth but there are important defeats without her, like Menem in La Rioja. But that's another dinosaur I think cambiemos won mostly because of distaste for some politicians rather than people turning all to "liberalism". It's all about Cristina... people in Santa Fe for example don't vote for Rossi, they vote for her and people that vote for cambiemos there, also vote... against her. Edited October 23, 2017 by LDOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,570 Posted October 23, 2017 #1236 Share Posted October 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, LDOG said: But that's another dinosaur I think cambiemos won mostly because of distaste for some politicians rather than people turning all to "liberalism". It's all about Cristina... people in Santa Fe for example don't vote for Rossi, they vote for her and people that vote for cambiemos there, also vote... against her. Rossi, Cristina.. a lot of people whit Italian origins here konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,298 Posted October 23, 2017 #1237 Share Posted October 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, LDOG said: But that's another dinosaur I think cambiemos won mostly because of distaste for some politicians rather than people turning all to "liberalism". It's all about Cristina... people in Santa Fe for example don't vote for Rossi, they vote for her and people that vote for cambiemos there, also vote... against her. Well but that dinosaur won for 10%diference in the Primaries elections, do you think this is liberalism?, there arent any argentinian liberalism who considerer this goverment like liberalism, for me is a moderate socialist goverments, for another liberals is a marxist- not Leninist goverment, is less statist like the montonerism goverment of Cristina and thats a good thing for the people who thinks like me.......but its far away of a goverment like we want. I agree about is all about Cristina and the kirchnerism, you appoint the example of Santa Fe, is funny because the satafesism vote on purpose Rossi for being the wortst peronism candidate in Santa Fe to lose the elections after, is the third time they do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,197 Posted October 23, 2017 #1238 Share Posted October 23, 2017 hace 5 minutos, konig said: Well but that dinosaur won for 10%diference in the Primaries elections, do you think this is liberalism?, there arent any argentinian liberalism who considerer this goverment like liberalism, for me is a moderate socialist goverments, for another liberals is a marxist- not Leninist goverment, is less statist like the montonerism goverment of Cristina and thats a good thing for the people who thinks like me.......but its far away of a goverment like we want. I agree about is all about Cristina and the kirchnerism, you appoint the example of Santa Fe, is funny because the satafesism vote on purpose Rossi for being the wortst peronism candidate in Santa Fe to lose the elections after, is the third time they do this. It hasn't been full liberalism yet because they didn't have much power in congress until now. Cut subsidies, cut taxes, pro-market reforms, less power for workers unions, those are the laws that are coming and they are textbook liberalism. It is isn't "libertarianism" if you want, but still, saying it's socialist is a bit ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,540 Posted October 23, 2017 #1239 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Politics Now that we finally have a new government after the elections (months ago), some ministries will get a new name. The most important one: the Ministry of Safety and Justice changes names to.........Ministry of Justice and Safety. And yes, that is going to costs millions of euros because paper for letters, envelops, all kinds of signs, accounts, email addresses etc have to be changed. Come on If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,298 Posted October 23, 2017 #1240 Share Posted October 23, 2017 1 hour ago, LDOG said: It hasn't been full liberalism yet because they didn't have much power in congress until now. Cut subsidies, cut taxes, pro-market reforms, less power for workers unions, those are the laws that are coming and they are textbook liberalism. It is isn't "libertarianism" if you want, but still, saying it's socialist is a bit ridiculous. The states regulation of everything continues, the fiscal deficit is still very big, without the taxes for the minery and the exportation of agricultural products, there arent any cut taxes, in fact we still having one of the biggest tax presure in the world, the union workers have in your country more power than in the mostpart of the world, i dont remember that like a liberalism rule, its a necesity in our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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