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heywoodu

Speed Skating ISU European Championships 2018

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Gianlu33    842
2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But especially the team sprint shouldn't be taken too seriously. And nobody does, apparently :p 

I agree for the team spirit, it's a stupid event, I just discovered that it's in the schedule :p

I spoke about mass start and team pursuit

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Nate River    167
2 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Tomorrow it's time for the speed skating circus, the real work is over now at these championships :d 

 

It's like the figure skating gala at the end of a tournament, but with medals :p 

Hey man, the team pursuit was a great adition. The Olympic format is obviously better (the 2006 format especially). I think the team sprint would also be a very good adition with a knockout bracket.

 

The mass start, well, bleh. They should make it twice as long and remove the sprints.

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heywoodu    2,985
4 minutes ago, Nate River said:

Hey man, the team pursuit was a great adition. The Olympic format is obviously better (the 2006 format especially). I think the team sprint would also be a very good adition with a knockout bracket.

 

The mass start, well, bleh. They should make it twice as long and remove the sprints.

Either the team pursuit or team sprint is alright, speed skating doesn't need both of them. 

 

And exactly, current mass start sucks. Make it a marathon (at least 100 laps) and then we'll start talking about how serious this is.

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Nate River    167
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53 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Either the team pursuit or team sprint is alright, speed skating doesn't need both of them. 

 

And exactly, current mass start sucks. Make it a marathon (at least 100 laps) and then we'll start talking about how serious this is.

I'd actually like to see both the team sprint and the team pursuit, since there isn't much overlap between athletes (an ideal team sprint team seems to be two 500m specialists plus a 1000m specialist, team pursuit is middle to long distance skaters). But then again, I'm a big fan of the track cycling team pursuit and team sprint so it figures I'd like the winter version.

 

Right now the team sprint is kind of a joke but I think if it gets added to the world and the Olympics (...which I feel has to be the plan given how hard the ISU is pushing it) it's going to get taken very seriously very quickly.

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heywoodu    2,985

My main fear with these events is that it will end up taking away the events that have made speed skating speed skating for so long. Short track skating is a different sport than long track and so is mass start or these events where people are riding together. 

 

100% against it :p 

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Nate River    167
3 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

My main fear with these events is that it will end up taking away the events that have made speed skating speed skating for so long. Short track skating is a different sport than long track and so is mass start or these events where people are riding together. 

 

100% against it :p 

I think the team pursuit / team sprint are still in the spirit of long track (I can't really think of a better team format for speed skating), but I agree that the mass start feels very out of place.

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Quasit    153
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21 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

My main fear with these events is that it will end up taking away the events that have made speed skating speed skating for so long. Short track skating is a different sport than long track and so is mass start or these events where people are riding together. 

 

100% against it :p 

Been discussing this with somebody before and it looks like mass starts become the norm now for the general TV audience with limited understanding. That's why we won't see the 50km in Cross-Country with intervals anymore. :wall:

"Who crosses the finish line first, wins" is an easy-to-understand concept. Hopefully there won't be Ski Jumping or Luge mass starts. :d

Edited by Quasit
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heywoodu    2,985

Apparently in the men's mass start, everyone sprinted one lap too late :roflmao:

 

Blokhuijsen won the sprint, but Silovs got the win because he crossed the finish first (one lap before the sprint). 

 

Luckily ISU didn't at the mass start to the Olympics yet, before clearing up all kinds of things like this. Oh wait. 

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rybak    433

Bronze for us men't team sprint :clap: 

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heywoodu    2,985

The Dutch team is going to file a protest :p 

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Gianlu33    842
9 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

The Dutch team is going to file a protest :p 

They will lost it, I guess :p You killed the Belarusian guy :lol:

 

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Dennis    33

Still no official results on the ISU results page, which are normally updated during the competition.

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