Doping Cases and Bans 2018 Thread

[Dragon 1,690]

The IOC have given their answers

Information	Description
Oswald Commission	Whenever an athlete has been sanctioned by the Oswald Commission
Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADRV) history	Any previous ADRV resulting in a suspension at any stage of the athlete’s career
Duchess List	According to the McLaren Investigation Report, the “Duchess List” was a list of selected athletes who were automatically subject to protection and linked with receiving the “Duchess Cocktail” (oxandrolone, methenolone and trenbolone).
LIMS analysis	On 30 October 2017, WADA’s I&I secured the Laboratory Information Management System (LIMS) database for the Moscow anti-doping centre (Moscow Laboratory) containing data from between 2012 and August 2015. The LIMS was reconstructed by a WADA forensic expert and then subjected to a rigorous authentication process to confirm its accuracy. The LIMS analysis allowed WADA to identify those samples that, despite showing prohibited substances or abnormal concentration values, were reported as “Negative” or not reported at all in the Anti-Doping Administration and Management System (ADAMS). This additional intelligence has been provided to the respective International Federations.
Relevant Emails	The McLaren Investigation Report identified, and publicly disclosed, a large number of emails which detail the “Disappearing Positive Methodology” and Sample Swapping.
Scratches & Marks	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been identified that were allegedly opened by the Federal Security Service (FSB) during the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014 and have been investigated by the IOC.
Salt Analysis	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and concentrations have been found that were physiologically impossible for a human being. The results established that the urine contents were either swapped or tampered with.
Urine Bank	Based on the McLaren Investigation, names of Russian athletes have been identified who were protected from positive tests.  Clean urine was collected from the athletes concerned and then swapped at the Moscow Laboratory.
DNA Inconsistencies	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and different DNA has been found in the samples.
Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)	A WADA ABP expert has individually reviewed the ABP passport of the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018.
Steroid Profile Analysis	Evidence of cases with highly suspicious Steroid Profile values was considered in the context of gender and sport. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
Steroid Profile Manipulation	Evidence of Steroid Profile manipulation by the Moscow laboratory (i.e. discrepancy between the data reported in ADAMS and LIMS) in order to hide and modify the Steroid Profile values. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
WADA OOCTP	WADA re-analysis programme of all available samples from Russian athletes with the priority focus on the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018
ADAMS Whereabouts	500 Russian athletes have been cross-checked with ADAMS to identify serious Whereabouts failures.
Pre-Games Task Force Recommendations	The programme involves a recommendation on minimum levels of testing on prospective athletes, based on specific risk assessments (sport, discipline, RTP, etc.) and with mandatory individual testing requirements for Russian athletes.
Additional Complementary Intelligence from IFs	Additional intelligence provided by International Winter Federations regarding athletes and/or support personnel
Additional Confidential Information provided by WADA	Intelligence extracted from WADA’s “Speak-up” whistleblower programme and other sources

[Yannakis 344]

10 minutes ago, Dimast said:

Bach seems to have been heavily pricked by the eggs 
Now I think that no one doubts that this campaign has nothing to do with the fight against doping. This is a real political order and a fight against Russia. All the stars and leaders were removed. Although everyone understood this already. True, it must be said that Russia itself gave an excuse, especially Mutko
(I'm sorry for my French)

 

 

On the first thought was, they really wants fair sport, but now is obviously that they are new sports Hitler.

Edited January 25, 2018 by Janakis

[JoshMartini007 2,202]

I assume these athletes have been tested in other labs for over a year now, were they positive?

 

Sure there's the issue of long term effects of doping, but two seasons is a long time and you'd have to draw a line somewhere.

[Dimast 88]

14 минуты назад, Dragon сказал:

The IOC have given their answers

Information	Description
Oswald Commission	Whenever an athlete has been sanctioned by the Oswald Commission
Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADRV) history	Any previous ADRV resulting in a suspension at any stage of the athlete’s career
Duchess List	According to the McLaren Investigation Report, the “Duchess List” was a list of selected athletes who were automatically subject to protection and linked with receiving the “Duchess Cocktail” (oxandrolone, methenolone and trenbolone).
LIMS analysis	On 30 October 2017, WADA’s I&I secured the Laboratory Information Management System (LIMS) database for the Moscow anti-doping centre (Moscow Laboratory) containing data from between 2012 and August 2015. The LIMS was reconstructed by a WADA forensic expert and then subjected to a rigorous authentication process to confirm its accuracy. The LIMS analysis allowed WADA to identify those samples that, despite showing prohibited substances or abnormal concentration values, were reported as “Negative” or not reported at all in the Anti-Doping Administration and Management System (ADAMS). This additional intelligence has been provided to the respective International Federations.
Relevant Emails	The McLaren Investigation Report identified, and publicly disclosed, a large number of emails which detail the “Disappearing Positive Methodology” and Sample Swapping.
Scratches & Marks	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been identified that were allegedly opened by the Federal Security Service (FSB) during the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014 and have been investigated by the IOC.
Salt Analysis	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and concentrations have been found that were physiologically impossible for a human being. The results established that the urine contents were either swapped or tampered with.
Urine Bank	Based on the McLaren Investigation, names of Russian athletes have been identified who were protected from positive tests.  Clean urine was collected from the athletes concerned and then swapped at the Moscow Laboratory.
DNA Inconsistencies	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and different DNA has been found in the samples.
Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)	A WADA ABP expert has individually reviewed the ABP passport of the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018.
Steroid Profile Analysis	Evidence of cases with highly suspicious Steroid Profile values was considered in the context of gender and sport. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
Steroid Profile Manipulation	Evidence of Steroid Profile manipulation by the Moscow laboratory (i.e. discrepancy between the data reported in ADAMS and LIMS) in order to hide and modify the Steroid Profile values. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
WADA OOCTP	WADA re-analysis programme of all available samples from Russian athletes with the priority focus on the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018
ADAMS Whereabouts	500 Russian athletes have been cross-checked with ADAMS to identify serious Whereabouts failures.
Pre-Games Task Force Recommendations	The programme involves a recommendation on minimum levels of testing on prospective athletes, based on specific risk assessments (sport, discipline, RTP, etc.) and with mandatory individual testing requirements for Russian athletes.
Additional Complementary Intelligence from IFs	Additional intelligence provided by International Winter Federations regarding athletes and/or support personnel
Additional Confidential Information provided by WADA	Intelligence extracted from WADA’s “Speak-up” whistleblower programme and other sources

 

This is not answer. IOC didn't answer not one athlete for which he was banned from the Olympics. And these 17 criteria on closer examination are transformed into 5. All the rest is a retelling of the same in different ways. Like in the hope of an inattentive reader, who will be impressed by the volume and quantity of clever words.

[De_Gambassi 896]

il y a 14 minutes, Dragon a déclaré:

The IOC have given their answers

Information	Description
Oswald Commission	Whenever an athlete has been sanctioned by the Oswald Commission
Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADRV) history	Any previous ADRV resulting in a suspension at any stage of the athlete’s career
Duchess List	According to the McLaren Investigation Report, the “Duchess List” was a list of selected athletes who were automatically subject to protection and linked with receiving the “Duchess Cocktail” (oxandrolone, methenolone and trenbolone).
LIMS analysis	On 30 October 2017, WADA’s I&I secured the Laboratory Information Management System (LIMS) database for the Moscow anti-doping centre (Moscow Laboratory) containing data from between 2012 and August 2015. The LIMS was reconstructed by a WADA forensic expert and then subjected to a rigorous authentication process to confirm its accuracy. The LIMS analysis allowed WADA to identify those samples that, despite showing prohibited substances or abnormal concentration values, were reported as “Negative” or not reported at all in the Anti-Doping Administration and Management System (ADAMS). This additional intelligence has been provided to the respective International Federations.
Relevant Emails	The McLaren Investigation Report identified, and publicly disclosed, a large number of emails which detail the “Disappearing Positive Methodology” and Sample Swapping.
Scratches & Marks	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been identified that were allegedly opened by the Federal Security Service (FSB) during the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014 and have been investigated by the IOC.
Salt Analysis	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and concentrations have been found that were physiologically impossible for a human being. The results established that the urine contents were either swapped or tampered with.
Urine Bank	Based on the McLaren Investigation, names of Russian athletes have been identified who were protected from positive tests.  Clean urine was collected from the athletes concerned and then swapped at the Moscow Laboratory.
DNA Inconsistencies	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and different DNA has been found in the samples.
Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)	A WADA ABP expert has individually reviewed the ABP passport of the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018.
Steroid Profile Analysis	Evidence of cases with highly suspicious Steroid Profile values was considered in the context of gender and sport. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
Steroid Profile Manipulation	Evidence of Steroid Profile manipulation by the Moscow laboratory (i.e. discrepancy between the data reported in ADAMS and LIMS) in order to hide and modify the Steroid Profile values. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
WADA OOCTP	WADA re-analysis programme of all available samples from Russian athletes with the priority focus on the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018
ADAMS Whereabouts	500 Russian athletes have been cross-checked with ADAMS to identify serious Whereabouts failures.
Pre-Games Task Force Recommendations	The programme involves a recommendation on minimum levels of testing on prospective athletes, based on specific risk assessments (sport, discipline, RTP, etc.) and with mandatory individual testing requirements for Russian athletes.
Additional Complementary Intelligence from IFs	Additional intelligence provided by International Winter Federations regarding athletes and/or support personnel
Additional Confidential Information provided by WADA	Intelligence extracted from WADA’s “Speak-up” whistleblower programme and other sources

 

No one is gonna read that... The IOC fucked up its communcation and timing big time. They woulkd have banned Russia all together two month ago that they would have got a lot less uproar.

[De_Gambassi 896]

il y a 2 minutes, JoshMartini007 a déclaré:

I assume these athletes have been tested in other labs for over a year now, were they positive?

 

Sure there's the issue of long term effects of doping, but two seasons is a long time and you'd have to draw a line somewhere.

 

It has more to do with the almost complete inefficiency of doping tests. This is the IOC admiting that they mean shit. Finally...

[Dimast 88]

26 минут назад, Dragon сказал:

The IOC have given their answers

Information	Description
Oswald Commission	Whenever an athlete has been sanctioned by the Oswald Commission
Anti-Doping Rule Violation (ADRV) history	Any previous ADRV resulting in a suspension at any stage of the athlete’s career
Duchess List	According to the McLaren Investigation Report, the “Duchess List” was a list of selected athletes who were automatically subject to protection and linked with receiving the “Duchess Cocktail” (oxandrolone, methenolone and trenbolone).
LIMS analysis	On 30 October 2017, WADA’s I&I secured the Laboratory Information Management System (LIMS) database for the Moscow anti-doping centre (Moscow Laboratory) containing data from between 2012 and August 2015. The LIMS was reconstructed by a WADA forensic expert and then subjected to a rigorous authentication process to confirm its accuracy. The LIMS analysis allowed WADA to identify those samples that, despite showing prohibited substances or abnormal concentration values, were reported as “Negative” or not reported at all in the Anti-Doping Administration and Management System (ADAMS). This additional intelligence has been provided to the respective International Federations.
Relevant Emails	The McLaren Investigation Report identified, and publicly disclosed, a large number of emails which detail the “Disappearing Positive Methodology” and Sample Swapping.
Scratches & Marks	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been identified that were allegedly opened by the Federal Security Service (FSB) during the Olympic Winter Games Sochi 2014 and have been investigated by the IOC.
Salt Analysis	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and concentrations have been found that were physiologically impossible for a human being. The results established that the urine contents were either swapped or tampered with.
Urine Bank	Based on the McLaren Investigation, names of Russian athletes have been identified who were protected from positive tests.  Clean urine was collected from the athletes concerned and then swapped at the Moscow Laboratory.
DNA Inconsistencies	Based on the McLaren Investigation, samples have been re-analysed and different DNA has been found in the samples.
Athlete Biological Passport (ABP)	A WADA ABP expert has individually reviewed the ABP passport of the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018.
Steroid Profile Analysis	Evidence of cases with highly suspicious Steroid Profile values was considered in the context of gender and sport. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
Steroid Profile Manipulation	Evidence of Steroid Profile manipulation by the Moscow laboratory (i.e. discrepancy between the data reported in ADAMS and LIMS) in order to hide and modify the Steroid Profile values. This information has been exclusively extracted from the secured LIMS database for the Panel. The complete results will be provided to the International Federations in the coming days.
WADA OOCTP	WADA re-analysis programme of all available samples from Russian athletes with the priority focus on the 500 Russian athletes originally proposed by the ROC (before its suspension) as the long list of athletes for the Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018
ADAMS Whereabouts	500 Russian athletes have been cross-checked with ADAMS to identify serious Whereabouts failures.
Pre-Games Task Force Recommendations	The programme involves a recommendation on minimum levels of testing on prospective athletes, based on specific risk assessments (sport, discipline, RTP, etc.) and with mandatory individual testing requirements for Russian athletes.
Additional Complementary Intelligence from IFs	Additional intelligence provided by International Winter Federations regarding athletes and/or support personnel
Additional Confidential Information provided by WADA	Intelligence extracted from WADA’s “Speak-up” whistleblower programme and other sources

 

 

I especially like the last two points - secret information from international federations and whistleblowers. In principle, only they could explain the non-disclosure of anyone - it is impossible to verify these data. This can banned anyone. 

 

[Dimast 88]

49 минут назад, Dragon сказал:

ADAMS Whereabouts

500 Russian athletes have been cross-checked with ADAMS to identify serious Whereabouts failures.

 

The figure skater Bukin was banned from the Games, because a few years ago he missed one doping test on inattention. But this is not a violation of the WADA Codex! Thousands of athletes skip doping tests. Hundreds will be at the Olympics. Why Bukin for this banned? Just because he's Russian? The Olympic Games have died. They will never be the same. 

 

Edited January 25, 2018 by Dimast

[Dimast 88]

The US and the West wanted to humiliate Russia, but they only killed the sport, not Russia. And millions of fans all over the world have suffered, who will not be able to enjoy the spectacle and see the best athletes

[Dimast 88]

That's all . Thank you for attention