thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted September 14, 2018 Author #41 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Em 9/11/2018 at 22:44, intoronto disse: Pan Am Entry lists: https://thegymter.net/2018/09/11/pan-ams-begin-this-week-in-lima/ Sad for Aruba All countries competing in the men's/women's competitions will qualify for 2019 Pan Am Games. Congrats for qualifying first athlete!@thiago_simoes Nice! Thank you! One gymnast from the Cayman Islands competed at the 2015 Pan American Games. She even made it to the all-around final! intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,236 Posted September 14, 2018 #42 Share Posted September 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, thiago_simoes said: Nice! Thank you! One gymnast from the Cayman Islands competed at the 2015 Pan American Games. She even made it to the all-around final! She also trained in Toronto and coach is also from Toronto and I got to say hello to her after the all around final as she was in demand from some of the media thiago_simoes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 2,924 Posted September 14, 2018 #43 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said: Nice! Thank you! One gymnast from the Cayman Islands competed at the 2015 Pan American Games. She even made it to the all-around final! Any predictions based on the entry lists? I think Mexico is in danger of not qualifying a full team, especially in the men's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted September 14, 2018 Author #44 Share Posted September 14, 2018 10 horas atrás, mrv86 disse: Any predictions based on the entry lists? I think Mexico is in danger of not qualifying a full team, especially in the men's side. My predictions for the top 8 teams: Men's teams: USA, Colombia, Canada, Brazil, Cuba, Argentina, Peru and the eight team is hard to predict... maybe Puerto Rico or Mexico. Women's teams: USA, Brazil, Canada, Argentina, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Colombia and Cuba. Also, I strongly believe Dominican Republic will not count as a women's team. There must be 4 to 5 gymnasts to compose a team according to FIG's rules. mrv86 and intoronto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,236 Posted September 14, 2018 #45 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said: My predictions for the top 8 teams: Men's teams: USA, Colombia, Canada, Brazil, Cuba, Argentina, Peru and the eight team is hard to predict... maybe Puerto Rico or Mexico. Women's teams: USA, Brazil, Canada, Argentina, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Colombia and Cuba. Also, I strongly believe Dominican Republic will not count as a women's team. There must be 4 to 5 gymnasts to compose a team according to FIG's rules. Thanks for clarifying that up. But slots 9 to 13 say "team event" for 2019 Pan Am Games, but only award 2 slots per country, so it's a bit confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,236 Posted September 14, 2018 #46 Share Posted September 14, 2018 7 hours ago, thiago_simoes said: My predictions for the top 8 teams: Men's teams: USA, Colombia, Canada, Brazil, Cuba, Argentina, Peru and the eight team is hard to predict... maybe Puerto Rico or Mexico. Women's teams: USA, Brazil, Canada, Argentina, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Colombia and Cuba. Also, I strongly believe Dominican Republic will not count as a women's team. There must be 4 to 5 gymnasts to compose a team according to FIG's rules. "In the team finals, three gymnasts compete in each event with all scores counting." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted September 14, 2018 Author #47 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 1 hora atrás, intoronto disse: "In the team finals, three gymnasts compete in each event with all scores counting." Yes, but I remember that Brazil sent three gymnasts to the London Olympics and they counted as individuals. Even if all of them wanted to perform on all apparatus, they would still count as individuals. At the Olympics, a team consists of 5 gymnasts, 4 of them perform on a given apparatus in qualifications, and the 3 best score counts (5-4-3 format). It looks like the organization decided to stretch things a bit for the Pan Ams. Uruguay only performed with three male gymnasts and they did indeed count their scores as a team score. So, it means that the Dominican Republic will also count as a team. Edited September 14, 2018 by thiago_simoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,236 Posted September 14, 2018 #48 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said: Yes, but I remember that Brazil sent three gymnasts to the London Olympics and they counted as individuals. Even if all of them wanted to perform on all apparatus, they would still count as individuals. At the Olympics, a team consists of 5 gymnasts, 4 of them perform on a given apparatus in qualifications, and the 3 best score counts (5-4-3 format). It looks like the organization decided to stretch things a bit for the Pan Ams. Uruguay only performed with three male gymnasts and they did indeed count their scores as a team score. So, it means that the Dominican Republic will also count as a team. Which is sad because now one of the smaller countries will lose a quota What if one of the three DR ladies do not compete in an event. DO they lose team status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,359 Posted September 14, 2018 Author #49 Share Posted September 14, 2018 45 minutos atrás, intoronto disse: Which is sad because now one of the smaller countries will lose a quota What if one of the three DR ladies do not compete in an event. DO they lose team status? Good question. I believe they should perform on all apparatus (12 routines) to even be considered a team. This is why Uruguay's men's team performed on all apparatus, despite scoring abysmally low on the pommel horse. Sad news: Haley de Jong got injured and there's no time to send an alternate gymnast to compete, so Canada will need to perform with only four girls. I'm completely sure there's no way this will hurt their chances of qualifying a full team for the Pan American Games, but I'm not so sure about a medal anymore. On an absolutely brilliant day, Argentina could challenge for the bronze medal now. intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,236 Posted September 14, 2018 #50 Share Posted September 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, thiago_simoes said: Good question. I believe they should perform on all apparatus (12 routines) to even be considered a team. This is why Uruguay's men's team performed on all apparatus, despite scoring abysmally low on the pommel horse. Sad news: Haley de Jong got injured and there's no time to send an alternate gymnast to compete, so Canada will need to perform with only four girls. I'm completely sure there's no way this will hurt their chances of qualifying a full team for the Pan American Games, but I'm not so sure about a medal anymore. On an absolutely brilliant day, Argentina could challenge for the bronze medal now. And iirc Ana will only compete in 2 events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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