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Fencing 2018 Discussion Thread

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Quasit    151

Fair enough. I don't always get to see every event but most venues look fine to me. I would agree though, this one doesn't seem too appealing.

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phelps    444
5 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Granted, there are a few of them. But this is like not even trying.

 

Why not a combined weapons world cup btw ? Each stage could take a week and be an oportunity to make somthing out of it.

 

that would be very expensive for FIE and difficult to set up for many athletes...remember that most fencers are no pros at all (Italy and France are just a couple of notable exceptions in this sense) and probably they can't take more than a weekend every once in a while off their regular job...

 

but I agree that at least they could try once in a season...maybe the world cup finals, with only the best athletes per weapon (=all pros who can do what they want of their time) could be the right event for that...

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De_Gambassi    261
il y a 3 minutes, phelps a déclaré:

 

that would be very expensive for FIE and difficult to set up for many athletes...remember that most fencers are no pros at all (Italy and France are just a couple of notable exceptions in this sense) and probably they can't take more than a weekend every once in a while off their regular job...

 

All right, I didn't think about that...

 

Still, a minimum of effort should be asked (I don't necesseraly mean the area by that, but mostly the decorum)

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phelps    444

Women's Individual Foil (Algiers, ALG)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Alice Volpi (ITA)

Silver: Erica Cipressa (ITA)

Bronze: Inna Deriglazova (RUS) & Hanna Lyczbinska (POL)

 

Semifinals:

Cipressa b. Deriglazova 15-10

Volpi b. Lyczbinska 15-14

 

Gold Medal Match:

Volpi b. Cipressa 15-6

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/129/results/rank

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phelps    444

Men's Individual Sabre (Padua, ITA)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Eli Dershwitz (USA)

Silver: Aron Szilagyi (HUN)

Bronze: Luca Curatoli (RUS) & Andras Szatmari (HUN)

 

Semifinals:

Dershwitz b. Curatoli 15-13

Szilagyi b. Szatmari 15-11

 

Gold Medal Match:

Dershwitz b. Szilagyi 15-12

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/156/results/rank

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phelps    444

Women's Team Foil (Algiers, ALG)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Russia

Silver: France

Bronze: United States

 

Semifinals:

Russia b. USA 45-44

France b. Italy 45-38

 

Bronze Medal Match:

USA b. Italy 45-44

 

Gold Medal Match:

Russia b. France 42-32

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/563/results/rank

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phelps    444

Men's Team Sabre (Padua, ITA)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: South Korea

Silver: Italy

Bronze: Hungary

 

Semifinals:

Italy b. Hungary 45-40

South Korea b. USA 45-33

 

Bronze Medal Match:

Hungary b. USA 45-34

 

Gold Medal Match:

South Korea b. Italy 45-33

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/758/results/rank

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phelps    444

I just can't believe it!!!

For the first time in more than 10 years (actually it's a lot more...but I can't remember the last time it happened), Italy is not on the podium of a women's team foil event in either World Cup, World Championships and/or Olympic Games!!!!! :yikes::yikes::yikes:

This is the end of one of the longest streaks of success in the entire sports history...:evil:

This is the end of a legend, the real "back Sunday" of the Italian sport...:pope::cry::wall::facepalm:

 

p.s. and the worst part of it, it's the fact that this news is not even going to be mentioned by any Italian media (apart from a couple of heavily specialized websites)...

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phelps    444
4 hours ago, phelps said:

I just can't believe it!!!

For the first time in more than 10 years (actually it's a lot more...but I can't remember the last time it happened), Italy is not on the podium of a women's team foil event in either World Cup, World Championships and/or Olympic Games!!!!! :yikes::yikes::yikes:

This is the end of one of the longest streaks of success in the entire sports history...:evil:

This is the end of a legend, the real "back Sunday" of the Italian sport...:pope::cry::wall::facepalm:

 

p.s. and the worst part of it, it's the fact that this news is not even going to be mentioned by any Italian media (apart from a couple of heavily specialized websites)...

 

some details...

 

as expected, the last women's team foil competition with the Italian girls not jumping on the podium happened 10 seasons ago, 9 years and 8.5 months to be precise...

 

the fatal date was May 18th, 2008 in Jeju Island (KOR), when Italy ended up the local World Cup event only in 4th place...

 

in the same season, there was also the last major championship with Italy outside the medal ranks: it happened in Kiev (July 4th, 2008) at the European Championships, when our Dream Team was just 5th...

 

moreover, the last time Italy lost a team assault against someone different from Russia happened in the 2014/2015 season, when the USA beat Italy in the semifinal of the Gdansk World Cup stage (in the same season, earlier also the French girls won against Italy once, in the semifinal of the Cancun World Cup stage)...

from that day (January 18th, 2015) on, only the Russian girls have been able to defeat our wonderful girls (6 times in total in 3 years)...

 

in this span (from the beginning of the 2007/2008 season), Italy has won 36 World Cup events (out of possible 53, today's event included), 6 Gold and 2 Silver medals at the World Champs (in 8 participations), 8 Gold and 1 Silver medal at the European Champs (in 10 participations, the only without medals being the infamous Kiev 2008 tournament) and 1 Gold and 1 Bronze medal at the Olympic Games (in 2 participations)...

3 times (2008/2009, 2013/2014 and 2016/2017) Italy also had the socalled "perfect season", meaning that they won each and every tournament they entered (all WC stages, European Champs and World Champs)...

 

from tonight, that's just history...:evil::pope:

 

p.s. this is the full recap of the Italian placings in the Women's Team Foil major events of the Fencing seasons from 2007/2008 through today...

 

2007/2008
World Cup
-Gdansk 5
St.Petersburg 3
Tokyo 1
-Jeju 4
La Havana 2
Olympic Games 3
-European Champs 5

 

2008/2009
World Cup
Gdansk 1
Marseille 1
Seoul 1
St.Petersburg 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2009/2010
World Cup
Gdansk 1
Turin 1
Marseille 1
Seoul 1
St.Petersburg 2
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2010/2011
World Cup
Tauberbischofsheim 2
Turin 1
Budapest 1
Shanghai 1
St.Petersburg 1
World Champs 2
European Champs 1

 

2011/2012
World Cup
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Budapest 1
Shanghai 2
St.Petersburg 1
Olympic Games 1
European Champs 1

 

2012/2013
World Cup
Budapest 1
St.Petersburg 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Shanghai 3
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2013/2014
World Cup
Budapest 1
St.Petersburg 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
Turin 1
Shanghai 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2014/2015
World Cup
Cancun 3
St.Maur 2
Gdansk 3
Algiers 1
Tauberbischofsheim 2
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2015/2016
World Cup
Cancun 1
St.Maur 1
Gdansk 1
Algiers 2
Tauberbischofsheim 2
World Champs 2
European Champs 2

 

2016/2017
World Cup
Cancun 1
St.Maur 1
Algiers 1
Gdansk 1
Tauberbischofsheim 1
World Champs 1
European Champs 1

 

2017/2018
World Cup
Cancun 2
St.Maur 1
Katowice 2
-Algiers 4

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phelps    444

the Olympic Games are underway, but that's not the only sport event running in this weekend...

 

Fencing doesn't stop...

 

Men's Individual Foil (Bonn, GER)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Alexey Cheremisinov (RUS)

Silver: Alexander Massialas (USA)

Bronze: Guillaume Bianchi (ITA) & Jeremy Cadot (FRA)

 

Semifinals:

Cheremisinov b. Bianchi 15-8

Massialas b. Cadot 15-11

 

Gold Medal Match:

Cheremisinov b. Massialas 15-8

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/138/results/rank

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phelps    444

Women's Individual Epee (Barcelona, ESP)

 

Final Results:

 

Gold: Zhu Mingye (CHN)

Silver: Tatyana Andryushina (RUS)

Bronze: Kang Young Mi (KOR) & Olena Kryvytska (UKR)

 

Semifinals:

Zhu b. Kang 15-11

Andryushina b. Kryvytska 15-5

 

Gold Medal Match:

Zhu b. Andryushina 15-7

 

Here is the Full Final Ranking (and Results) from Today's competition:

http://fie.org/competitions/2018/92/results/rank

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