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heywoodu

Speed Skating at the Winter Olympic Games 2018

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phelps    257
1 minute ago, heywoodu said:

With the minor addition that there is still the option for certain (big) names to be chosen if for example they were on their way to winning but fell. 

 sure, but I guess there are quite a few chances something similar happens (at least in the longer distances...in the 500m that's always possible)...

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phelps    257
4 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

It should be on the NOS website (well, it is :p). I wasn't home today (so I watched it on the NOS app) but I will post the link tomorrow when it starts :)

 

 

 

if they go live, all competition times are reported on the uitslagen page I linked before...

 

p.s. @gianlu33

remember...you need a VPN (even a free one like Hola) in order to watch the NOS live broadcast (here in Italy, of course)...:evil:;)

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Quasit    88
2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

Winter Olympics --> Name of an event

Speed skating --> Just words

 

It's weird to write capital letter when talking about speed skating in a sentence, it's weird to have two capital letters in a thread title. So I'm happy it's not there, and I'm praying that it stays like this. Prepare for rants if someone changes this :p 

...and for some, like me, Speed Skating is also the name of an event. It's not worth arguing about, it's all about personal opinion. "xx" or "XX" looks better than "Xx" or "xX". :p

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dcro    1,781

Blokhuijsen and de Vrues? :dunno: I doubt they can win 5000m medals (what would already put NED two medals behind their 2014 tally...).

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heywoodu    2,030
2 hours ago, phelps said:

 

 

meanwhile with that kind of scheme I don't know if there will be place in the team for even a single 500m only specialist (among the girls, obviously)...

 

Which is not really a problem. I mean, sad for them of course, but really Ter Mors is probably the only one who might have a medal shot there (meaning, on a perfect day for her).

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heywoodu    2,030
2 hours ago, dcro said:

Blokhuijsen and de Vrues? :dunno: I doubt they can win 5000m medals (what would already put NED two medals behind their 2014 tally...).

I don't know why not. Especially Blokhuijsen has shown more than once to be a very, very capable world-class 5k skater. A lot of trouble in the past years, but he's back. And with a race like today, it'd be hard for anyone to beat De Vries (the question of course is whether he will repeat this performance, but hey, it's still better than Jorrit 'if I'm selected as a reserve for the team pursuit, I'd rather not go at all!!' Bergsma. Plus, the Netherlands not being a lock-in for 2-3 medals in the 5k increases the chances for a Peter Michael stunt :cheer:

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Nate River    115
2 hours ago, dcro said:

Blokhuijsen and de Vrues? :dunno: I doubt they can win 5000m medals (what would already put NED two medals behind their 2014 tally...).

The Netherlands is not going to be anywhere it's once in a generation 2014 performance. Japan is currently the strongest nation on the women's side and will probably win 3 golds (500, 1000, 1500 and team pursuit) and the men's team, while still the best in the world, isn't as dominant as it was in 2014.

 

I'll go on a limb here and say that I'm going to be very surprised if the Dutch get a sweep.

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heywoodu    2,030
8 hours ago, Nate River said:

The Netherlands is not going to be anywhere it's once in a generation 2014 performance.

Let's hope so. That would be really, really bad for the sport. 

 

If I'd have to say an event where a sweep is the most likely, I'd say it's definitely in the men's distances of course, maybe the 1000m. With no Kulizhnikov, and possibly Verbij, Verweij and Nuis on a good day, who knows. Not saying it's likely, just saying it's more likely in my opinion than on the other distances :p

 

And on the 500m there are easily 10-15 athletes who could take the gold (especially when it's a one run event), including all Dutch participants, so who knows. 

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heywoodu    2,030
5 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

@heywoodu how the athletes for the mass start will be selected?

Koen Verweij and Irene Schouten have already been (more or less) selected, I'm not exactly sure how the 2nd place is going to be chosen but I think it'll come from the athletes who qualified in the individual events. Another reason for me to hope Bergsma won't qualify, because an Olympic mass start with Bergsma and someone from a different team than him (which Verweij is) is not gonna work. 

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phelps    257
10 hours ago, heywoodu said:

I don't know why not. Especially Blokhuijsen has shown more than once to be a very, very capable world-class 5k skater. A lot of trouble in the past years, but he's back. And with a race like today, it'd be hard for anyone to beat De Vries (the question of course is whether he will repeat this performance, but hey, it's still better than Jorrit 'if I'm selected as a reserve for the team pursuit, I'd rather not go at all!!' Bergsma. Plus, the Netherlands not being a lock-in for 2-3 medals in the 5k increases the chances for a Peter Michael stunt :cheer:

or maybe a Tumulero/Giovannini "Fabris 2006-alike detonation"...:lol:

It would take more than a miracle...but you know...Santa was here just a couple of days ago...:rofl::p

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phelps    257
1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

Koen Verweij and Irene Schouten have already been (more or less) selected, I'm not exactly sure how the 2nd place is going to be chosen but I think it'll come from the athletes who qualified in the individual events. Another reason for me to hope Bergsma won't qualify, because an Olympic mass start with Bergsma and someone from a different team than him (which Verweij is) is not gonna work. 

looking at the scheme for the girls, I'd say that Schouten is already locked in...she's at number 8 with 10 places up for grab, so...

Verweij, instead, it looks he has to earn his spot (in the Team Pursuit, too) in another race, since the Mass Start no.1 is only at number #11 in the scheme (which is probably going to be enough, but still he's not mathematically safe yet)...

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