De_Gambassi 896 Posted March 17, 2018 #231 Share Posted March 17, 2018 il y a 4 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré: They skate with their names on the suits, that's exposure. They train as a team and function as a team, which is why you often see people from one team all perform good or bad roughly at the same time. The exposure is them skating with the suits of sponsors. Well, I get that. My interrogation is not sponsors, what are they for ? But why, in one case (speed skating) the sponsors led to the creation of commercial teams, and that in pretty every other cases it didn't (some of them being much more popular sports than speed skating). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted March 17, 2018 Author #232 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, De_Gambassi said: Well, I get that. My interrogation is not sponsors, what are they for ? But why, in one case (speed skating) the sponsors led to the creation of commercial teams, and that in pretty every other cases it didn't (some of them being much more popular sports than speed skating). Because it worked and everyone thought "hey, this works, let's keep doing it" If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted March 17, 2018 #233 Share Posted March 17, 2018 il y a 1 minute, heywoodu a déclaré: Because it worked and everyone thought "hey, this works, let's keep doing it" Maybe Who was the first commercial team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted March 17, 2018 Author #234 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said: Maybe Who was the first commercial team ? Rintje Ritsma, one of the best ever, had enough of skating for the national federation (which didn't exactly provide much of a living) and said goodbye to them in 1995. Eventually he/his manager started the first commercial team (Sanex), which eventually became the famous (in speed skating) TVM team, with the likes of Kramer. TVM stopped a few years ago and the main team now is LottoNL-Jumbo, which I believe was the second commercial team in 1998 (as SpaarSelect). https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanex_(schaatsploeg) Edited March 17, 2018 by heywoodu De_Gambassi 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,095 Posted March 17, 2018 #235 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Would I be right to say that sprinters (especially in the 500m) seem to take the world cup a lot more seriously than especially the long distance skaters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted March 17, 2018 Author #236 Share Posted March 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Nate River said: Would I be right to say that sprinters (especially in the 500m) seem to take the world cup a lot more seriously than especially the long distance skaters? Hard to say. For example Sven Kramer is sort of injured and I guess there's no reason for him to risk getting hurt more just for a World Cup (which doesn't mean that much considering he's got 9 world allround titles for starters) If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,095 Posted March 17, 2018 #237 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Hard to say. For example Sven Kramer is sort of injured and I guess there's no reason for him to risk getting hurt more just for a World Cup (which doesn't mean that much considering he's got 9 world allround titles for starters) I don’t mean this farce of a world cup finale specifically, I mean in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,499 Posted March 18, 2018 Author #238 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Herzog thought she won the 500m, and then, minutes later, the time of Russian Golikova gets changed to a 0,10 seconds (!) faster time all of a sudden resulting in Golikova as winner Yeah, this fits perfectly in this insane farce of a World Cup final. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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