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De_Gambassi

2026 Winter Olympic Games

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De_Gambassi    261
Il y a 3 heures , Skijumpingmaster a déclaré:

 

The host nation might get the ability to include 5 sports to the program . The people behind the Lillehammer bid talks about: Ski flying , bandy , dog sled racing , telemark and ski orinenteering. 

 

 

Heum...

 

Neither Ski Flying nor Telemark are new sports, but would be new disciplines inside an allready existing sport (skiing). It's not up to the host to propose that, but up to FIS. Dog sled racing is not recognised by the IOC and can't be proposed. That leaves only Bandy and possibly ski orienteering (Orientering is a recognised sport, but I don't know if goes for only summer orienteering or to skii orienteering as well). 

 

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heywoodu    2,966
3 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Heum...

 

Neither Ski Flying nor Telemark are new sports, but would be new disciplines inside an allready existing sport (skiing).

 

 

Not every FIS-sport is seen as one sport. Alpine skiing and cross-country skiing, for example, are two separate sports, and not both disciplines in 'skiing'. At least if websites like that of the FIS or Olympics are to be believed. Telemark would be a new sport (yes, a skiing sport, but a new one), where ski flying of course is simply a discipline within the sport of ski jumping, much like downhill and slalom are alpine skiing disciplines.

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De_Gambassi    261
il y a 1 minute, heywoodu a déclaré:

 

Not every FIS-sport is seen as one sport. Alpine skiing and cross-country skiing, for example, are two separate sports, and not both disciplines in 'skiing'. At least if websites like that of the FIS or Olympics are to be believed. Telemark would be a new sport (yes, a skiing sport, but a new one), where ski flying of course is simply a discipline within the sport of ski jumping, much like downhill and slalom are alpine skiing disciplines.

 

I don't know. In their communication, they are still talking about the "seven winter sports" (here for exemple) (Curling, Skiing, Biathlon, Skating, Bosbsleigh & Skeleton, Luge and Ice hockey).

 

Maybe, they did drop their retarded way of aknowlege "sports" and "disciplines". That would be a relief tbf.

 

Still, I don't think a host can propose a new sport that exists within an allready olympic federation. If anything, only non olympic federations proposed new sports for Tokyo.

 

Possibly, it's different for the winter olympics idk :mumble:

 

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Vojthas    55

I think it was in 2015 when they crossed out the term "discipline" out of the Olympic Charter (as a result of Agenda 2020 which proposed to concentrate more on events). Now Telemark is a new event in one sport (skiing) and it's up to FIS to propose it. The host may propose for their own edition some new sports, for example bandy.

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heywoodu    2,966

Well then, what is a discipline, event and sport? If alpine skiing is an event in a sport, then slalom or classic style sprint are events in events? Olympception.. 

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De_Gambassi    261
il y a 4 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré:

Well then, what is a discipline, event and sport? If alpine skiing is an event in a sport, then slalom or classic style sprint are events in events? Olympception.. 

 

I guess, that means from a adminstrative ioc view there is no such thing anymore as "Alpine Skiing" ?

 

Spoiler

Perhaps :p

 

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intoronto    362

Sport = The IF, any events under that IF =discipline. 

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heywoodu    2,966
4 hours ago, intoronto said:

Sport = The IF, any events under that IF =discipline. 

Well, whoever thought of that system wasn't the brightest of his/her class.

 

They can tell me all they want, but a world where alpine skiing and ski jumping are seen as one sport, but cross-country skiing and biathlon are not, is not a world where things make any sort of sense.

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15 hours ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Heum...

 

Neither Ski Flying nor Telemark are new sports, but would be new disciplines inside an allready existing sport (skiing). It's not up to the host to propose that, but up to FIS. Dog sled racing is not recognised by the IOC and can't be proposed. That leaves only Bandy and possibly ski orienteering (Orientering is a recognised sport, but I don't know if goes for only summer orienteering or to skii orienteering as well). 

 

Ski flying would be a discipline yes , but telemark would be a new sport in the olympics. 

 

Norwegian IOC member Gerhard Heiberg has said that in the future host nations could get the ability to propose five new sports/events/disciplines. Heiberg then proposed ski flying , telemark , dog sled , ski orinenteering and bandy. 

 

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De_Gambassi    261
il y a 1 minute, Skijumpingmaster a déclaré:

Ski flying would be a discipline yes , but telemark would be a new sport in the olympics. 

 

Norwegian IOC member Gerhard Heiberg has said that in the future host nations could get the ability to propose five new sports/events/disciplines. Heiberg then proposed ski flying , telemark , dog sled , ski orinenteering and bandy. 

 

 

He must be refering to the additional sports from Agenda 2020 that have been inaugurated with Tokyo 2020 right ? If so, this is only about news sports from new - recognised - federations.

 

Or, it's something new entirelly, and then I'm out.

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2 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

He must be refering to the additional sports from Agenda 2020 that have been inaugurated with Tokyo 2020 right ? If so, this is only about news sports from new - recognised - federations.

 

Or, it's something new entirelly, and then I'm out.

I think it's something entierly new. He said the IOC wanted to make the olympics more suitable to more countries , and that apparently included the host nation adding five sports to their games. 

Heiberg said this to norwegian newspapers. 

 

I'm not 100% sure though. 

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George_D    70

Innsbruck is dead after public vote so we have only Sion?

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