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De_Gambassi

2026 Winter Olympic Games

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Gigs    46
Am 5.7.2018 um 11:26 schrieb dcro:

 

Still, I'm sure Innsbruck for example has everything in place, having hosted both YOG and Olympics proper recently. Why then push for some "Graz" nonsense over that?

They wanted to make it in Innsbruck but they had a referendum where as everywhere the people were against the olympics. The Graz option was really only the last hope of the ÖOC knowing the chance to get these olympics was huge.

And also to be honest, I'm not surprised about the outcome of the Graz bid at all. It was doomed before it even went official. Innsbruck is in a winter sport crazy region perfectly located and able to organize olympics without big costs, while Graz would have had to build a lot more and is quite far away from the actual winter sport regions. From the first moment onwards it has always been clear that neither the country Styria nor the state Austria wanted these olympic games, that the city would have to organize the Olympics on it's own only with help from the towns where some of the events would have taken place. It was a complete mess that only could have worked without a referendum (as it was planned) but half the population of Graz would have protested if they had actually decided something that important without a referendum. 

 

The problem is that because of huge olympic games like Sochi and the bad economic news surrounding those games nobody wants to host olympics anymore. And that's stupid. I mean of course I want olympics in Austria, I'm an Austrian winter sport fan after all, but putting that aside, the costs for Olympic games where no new venues would have to be constructed would be tiny compared to what happened in Sochi. IIrc there was even a study that showed Innsbruck would earn as much money with olympic games than they would have to invest without including the marketing value. I mean just think about that, basically hourlong advertisements shown in the whole world over two weeks and you don't have to pay for it. This development just makes me angry and I already fear the 3rd eastern Asian olympic games in a row where I'll have to stand up at 2 am in the morning. 

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heywoodu    3,204
16 minutes ago, Gigs said:

I mean just think about that, basically hourlong advertisements shown in the whole world over two weeks and you don't have to pay for it.

Yep, the opposite of for example Pyeongchang. I don't remember seeing anything of the city, and I've watched basically everything. Now imagine Olympic ski jumping at the Bergisel towering over Innsbruck :yikes: fapfap.gif

 

 

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phelps    516
4 ore fa, De_Gambassi ha scritto:

 

it's more complicated than that...

 

basically, our NOC (after the IOC gave them permission to do it) has approved a tri-city bid (Milano, Torino, Cortina)...

but now Milan, that thought (with all the reason, I'd say) they would be the real candidate town (with only some events hosted by the other bidders, Torino and Cortina), has decided to opt out from the possible governance of the final bid (in practice, no Milan officials nor politicians will be in the "Local Organizing Committee" of the Games), giving in any case the OK to our NOC to be included among the Olympic Venues (it's still unclear if they want the name of the city included in the official bid -it's still supposed that the Opening Ceremony will be in San Siro Stadium, so it would be really strange if the name "Milano" won't be included- or not)...

 

however, this not a sport bid anymore...it's just a political compromise that has nothing to do with sport, but only with our worst habit, the systematic spoil system of all our public institutons by the governing political parties...

 

and technically it's just something unacceptable (a few proposed venues are just a joke)...

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DaniSRB    514

@phelps, how big are chance for Italy seriously bidding for SOG? 

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intoronto    405

Definitely getting Calgary 2026 now :facepalm::facepalm:

 

Canada likely to be first country to host the World Cup/Olympics in same year.

 

 

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De_Gambassi    270
il y a 12 minutes, phelps a déclaré:

 

it's more complicated than that...

 

basically, our NOC (after the IOC gave them permission to do it) has approved a tri-city bid (Milano, Torino, Cortina)...

but now Milan, that thought (with all the reason, I'd say) they would be the real candidate town (with only some events hosted by the other bidders, Torino and Cortina), has decided to opt out from the possible governance of the final bid (in practice, no Milan officials nor politicians will be in the "Local Organizing Committee" of the Games), giving in any case the OK to our NOC to be included among the Olympic Venues (it's still unclear if they want the name of the city included in the official bid -it's still supposed that the Opening Ceremony will be in San Siro Stadium, so it would be really strange if the name "Milano" won't be included- or not)...

 

however, this not a sport bid anymore...it's just a political compromise that has nothing to do with sport, but only with our worst habit, the systematic spoil system of all our public institutons by the governing political parties...

 

and technically it's just something unacceptable (a few proposed venues are just a joke)...

 

Do you think the bid will survive (generally speaking, not just with this Milan thing) ?

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heywoodu    3,204
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16 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Definitely getting Calgary 2026 now :facepalm::facepalm:

 

Canada likely to be first country to host the World Cup/Olympics in same year.

 

 

What's wrong with Calgary? 

 

The place where our Yvonne van Gennip beat all those doped up East Germans and Soviets on nothing but a good sandwich with peanut butter :banana:

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intoronto    405
2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

What's wrong with Calgary? 

 

The place where our Yvonne van Gennip beat all those doped up East Germans and Soviets on nothing but a good sandwich with peanut butter :banana:

Canada does not need another Winter Olympics. 2010 was used perfectly to make Canada world power in winter sports. A summer Olympics would be a better hosting option and hopefully would help push Canada into the top 8 (long term goal by the COC)

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Dragon    265

Reuters News

 

Italy’s Olympic committee (CONI) voted on Wednesday to submit a joint bid formed by Milan, Turin and the Alpine resort of Cortina d’Ampezzo to host the 2026 Winter Olympics

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phelps    516
1 ora fa, DaniSRB ha scritto:

@phelps, how big are chance for Italy seriously bidding for SOG? 

 

Summer Games? 0, absolutely 0

 

the government accepted this Winter bid only because it's not that expensive and because the 3 regions are led by their same coalition (Lombardy -not the city of Milan, but the entire region- and Veneto -Cortina- by Lega Nord and Torino by 5-star movement -and that's the problem...our NOC actually wanted Milan as the Olympic bidder, but the 5-star people wanted Torino...so our NOC was forced to accept the political compromise with this 3-headed bid or nothing)...

 

but the Summer Games are definitely another thing (and the only possible bidder is Rome, with all the problems they take with them)...

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