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Paris 2024 Olympic Sports Programme

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Jur    51
hace 41 minutos, JoshMartini007 said:

Cross country is already extreme relative to road/track racing. You can reuse the mountain biking course if you want to make things more interesting.

Well, not really. Lately this days all courses are so flat.

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Jur    51

For me, Cross Country is entertaining when there's mud and snow, that cause racing more difficult. Also whit big hills, not that crappy obstacles they put in the Kampala WC in 2017 to make it "harder".

 

For all that, Cross Country makes more sense in the Winter Olympic Games.

If they want to do for Summer Games maybe they're thinking about "obstacles-races" or Spartan Races instead. It's a cool idea and I would deffo watch the event and probably became one of my faves, but this is not Cross Country.

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I never had to run in the snow for cross country, but mud was quite common if it was rainy. Also big hills, rocks and tree roots are a must or else it isn't any different than road racing with a bunch of trees.

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AlFHg    14

Karate and sport climbing will become core sports, I'm pretty sure about it and, honestly, they deserve it. One is world-wide spread, the other is cheap and attractive for a lot of people as it can be practiced in a gym (at least, you can try it) without too much equipment. 

 

I dream in the future of "venues" made up of city parks in which a surface can be used in a flexible way (for example, asphalt for roller sports, figure skating, and then using it for temporary venues like those of sport climbing and 3x3 basketball), integrating it with baseball/softball/rugby fields, rowing venues, mountain biking and so on. Maybe it sounds a little bit confusing but in my mind is clear xD

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10 minutes ago, AlFHg said:

Karate and sport climbing will become core sports, I'm pretty sure about it and, honestly, they deserve it. One is world-wide spread, the other is cheap and attractive for a lot of people as it can be practiced in a gym (at least, you can try it) without too much equipment. 

 

I dream in the future of "venues" made up of city parks in which a surface can be used in a flexible way (for example, asphalt for roller sports, figure skating, and then using it for temporary venues like those of sport climbing and 3x3 basketball), integrating it with baseball/softball/rugby fields, rowing venues, mountain biking and so on. Maybe it sounds a little bit confusing but in my mind is clear xD

 

Outdoor venues would be nice. Many venues used for the Olympics can be used for other sports/activities. The issue for host cities is that the IOC wants the seating capacity to be high. The smallest venue for the 2020 Olympics is 5000 seats with many of them reaching over 10,000 seats. Most cities don't need multiple 10,000 seat venues which is why most host cities are left with "white elephant" venues. I bet many cities would be willing to host if the IOC allowed some events to be held at ~2000 seat venues.

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AlFHg    14

I suppose this will last until a city will make an ambitious proposal. But this proposal is not only related to the fact that sports could be hosted only in different kind of venues: a different use of indoor venues should be done. Let's say, a Judo Grand Prix requests 3 days for 14 categories, while in OG only 2 categories are held every day. It's a waste of time, other sport could join and the programme gets compressed. With the current technologies of live streaming, like eurosport for the Pyeongchang games, there's no need for television, each can decide which sports see. 

 

In Olympics, I suppose the most expensive things are venues, together with Olympic Villages and civil infrastructures, (roads, airport, public transport); athlete number is not the most important problem and, on the other hand, increasing programme in some sports (like canoe or track cycling) will increase quotas but not necessarily number of athletes, (and media will be able to "build" more outstanding athletes like Phelps or Bolt). Using venues better, by including more sports (and hence, more tickets) is the way to get a near-term economic advantage. For longer terms, it comes from the ability of the governments, and from the perception people has. Probably, in the future, the IOC should recommend to divide team sports over the whole country, so that local improvements can be done, reducing the perception of centering resources in only one place. Things definitely will change, but it takes courage from IOC and ambition from potential hosts.

 

If I get a Ph.D. position in Lausanne, I'll go tell them :d

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