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[POLL] Would you like E-Sports to be contested at the Olympic Games?

Would you like E-Sports to be contested at the Olympic Games?  

33 members have voted

  1. 1. Would you like E-Sports to be contested at the Olympic Games?

    • Yes, the Olympic Movement cannot ignore the voice of youth
    • No, it's against the tradition of sport


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Rdbc    2
6 minutes ago, Vojthas said:

If Olympics are a sport event, why then put there something, which is not sport?

 

It's hard to explain because while it's not a sport in the sense of physical activity, etc. it is a sport in the fact that it uses the brain, hand-eye coordination, etc. For example, I think eSports could be in the Olympics but I don't think chess could. It's really hard to show someone what I mean if they don't know how eSports works, etc. 

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Rdbc    2
2 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

Just for the sake of discussion. You you watch the final of say SFIV instead of an athletic or swimming infal

 

Kinda, confused on the wording but it all depends on the eSport to be honest I would rather watch a swimming final than a SFIV final because I dont follow SFIV. But I'd watch a SFIV final before I watch a Sport Climbing final. 

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De_Gambassi    87
il y a 3 minutes, Rdbc a déclaré:

 

Kinda, confused on the wording but it all depends on the eSport to be honest I would rather watch a swimming final than a SFIV final because I dont follow SFIV. But I'd watch a SFIV final before I watch a Sport Climbing final. 

 

I'm not a native english speaker and I'm half-drunk. Get used to it !

 

But thanks anyway for your answer. I still feel like most of the esport fans are very passive viewers (ie: they will not turn on for one given event, but simply launch twitch and see what's going on); which it's not really how the olympics work.

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Rdbc    2
38 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

 

I'm not a native english speaker and I'm half-drunk. Get used to it !

 

But thanks anyway for your answer. I still feel like most of the esport fans are very passive viewers (ie: they will not turn on for one given event, but simply launch twitch and see what's going on); which it's not really how the olympics work.

 

Your English is 100% better than my French. It honestly just depends on the game for example LoL has games each weekend and about 100,000+ people tune in every weekend to watch it really it just depends on if the game advertises that they are having a competition. 

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Mkbw50    87

I don't get what harm adding e-Sports is

Being "against tradition" is kind of irrelevant - otherwise nothing will get changed

That companies make games - companies make tennis rackets, football boots, golf clubs... not the end of the world

That it's "not a sport" - this is a bit of an NTS (No True Sportsman?). There is no line for "sport" ending and starting - if shooting can stay then e-Sports can

And that it's not "spectator friendly", the best response for that is Equestrian Dressage.

If it's too complicated... does anyone understand how Sport Climbing works... not that easy to learn... equestrian, surfing, martial arts

It has a big fan base, probably bigger than things like Taekwondo and Surfing

There can be variety with many different games

Honestly if they were big enough I wouldn't mind putting skilled card games like the PTCG in either, or even board games. If you don't want to watch don't.

 

But there are caveats. If only we had a Games to trial new sports like this to see if they work...

 

768px-International_World_Games_AssociatMaybe these guys can help us out

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Rdbc    2
1 hour ago, Mkbw50 said:

I don't get what harm adding e-Sports is

Being "against tradition" is kind of irrelevant - otherwise nothing will get changed

That companies make games - companies make tennis rackets, football boots, golf clubs... not the end of the world

That it's "not a sport" - this is a bit of an NTS (No True Sportsman?). There is no line for "sport" ending and starting - if shooting can stay then e-Sports can

And that it's not "spectator friendly", the best response for that is Equestrian Dressage.

If it's too complicated... does anyone understand how Sport Climbing works... not that easy to learn... equestrian, surfing, martial arts

It has a big fan base, probably bigger than things like Taekwondo and Surfing

There can be variety with many different games

Honestly if they were big enough I wouldn't mind putting skilled card games like the PTCG in either, or even board games. If you don't want to watch don't.

 

But there are caveats. If only we had a Games to trial new sports like this to see if they work...

 

768px-International_World_Games_AssociatMaybe these guys can help us out

 

Yes, I agree with everything! The 2017 Asian Indoor and Martial Arts Games (this September) will have eSports as a demonstration sport then the 2018 Asian games will also have eSports as a demonstration sport, then the 2022 Asian games will have eSports as a medal event. Hopefully between 2018 and 2022 we will see eSports be added to more events. 

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LDOG    233
hace 2 horas, Mkbw50 said:

That companies make games - companies make tennis rackets, football boots, golf clubs... not the end of the world

 

Yes, but adidas doesn't own football, Wilson doesn't own tennis, etc. These sports are "owned" by an international federation which has "subsidiaries" (national federations) in each country. And every one of them has a say in how the international federation and the game in general must be run. In a video game company only a handful of people make all the decisions. I see there is a video game international federation, but I don't know how much power it can have in practice... at the end each videogame is essentially a totally different "sport" and each company can do whatever it wants with it's product. The situation is not the same as in conventional sports because, for example, there is no "adidas football" or "nike football", there is one association football game and there are companies that just provide the products to play it.

 

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heywoodu    1,109
8 hours ago, dcro said:

 

Since when billiard and poker players need quick reflexes?

 

And last time I checked computer mouse didn't weigh 4 kilos...

It doesn't have to weigh 4 kilos to be very much physically intensive. It's not like most top competitors spend a lot of time on physical training (including visits to the gym) for fun. 

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heywoodu    1,109
41 minutes ago, LDOG said:

 

Yes, but adidas doesn't own football, Wilson doesn't own tennis, etc. These sports are "owned" by an international federation which has "subsidiaries" (national federations) in each country. And every one of them has a say in how the international federation and the game in general must be run. In a video game company only a handful of people make all the decisions. I see there is a video game international federation, but I don't know how much power it can have in practice... at the end each videogame is essentially a totally different "sport" and each company can do whatever it wants with it's product. The situation is not the same as in conventional sports because, for example, there is no "adidas football" or "nike football", there is one association football game and there are companies that just provide the products to play it.

 

That could be solved by letting the international federation create a game for competition purposes only, but obviously that would have absolutely no attraction among top competitors (who won't care about some random game, but care about the actual big games), so that's not really an option too. 

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heywoodu    1,109
2 hours ago, Mkbw50 said:

I don't get what harm adding e-Sports is

Being "against tradition" is kind of irrelevant - otherwise nothing will get changed

That companies make games - companies make tennis rackets, football boots, golf clubs... not the end of the world

That it's "not a sport" - this is a bit of an NTS (No True Sportsman?). There is no line for "sport" ending and starting - if shooting can stay then e-Sports can

And that it's not "spectator friendly", the best response for that is Equestrian Dressage.

If it's too complicated... does anyone understand how Sport Climbing works... not that easy to learn... equestrian, surfing, martial arts

It has a big fan base, probably bigger than things like Taekwondo and Surfing

There can be variety with many different games

Honestly if they were big enough I wouldn't mind putting skilled card games like the PTCG in either, or even board games. If you don't want to watch don't.

 

But there are caveats. If only we had a Games to trial new sports like this to see if they work...

 

768px-International_World_Games_AssociatMaybe these guys can help us out

 

Apart from the sentence I made bold, I agree with basically everything :p 

 

It definitely has a much bigger fan base than several current Olympic sports and I'm pretty sure it'll be easier to follow than dressage or even sailing. 

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Dunadan    38

I can't answer to the poll formulated in this way...there are worse events in the Olympics, despite being show and entertainment rather than sports.

 

But which video games could be used to play? I can't think of a game which:

- requires some physical abilities (so not purely strategic games / mind games);

- is not a sport simulation (there is already the real version);

- is not based on violence, killing,...

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